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Keep in view
Inbound replies are in scope
Reply to people who contact Vic's account, and to assigned replies. Answer first, then ask one question.
Not yet released
Cold outbound, DM automation, the follow-up cadence and booking links need release before live use.
The offer sheet decides
Prices, deliverables and what not to promise come from the offer sheet. If sources conflict, ask the sales lead.
Tools you will use daily
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What this SOP is, what your role covers, and the standard every message is held to.
What this is
This is the working playbook for the people who manage Vic Keller's Instagram DMs. It turns a conversation with a business owner into one of four outcomes: a qualified fit conversation with the right closer, a useful answer, a respectful close, or a clean handoff to EPIC. It is built to be used while you work. Situations come first, scripts second, judgment throughout.
A script is an example of a standard, not a substitute for thinking. If you are about to paste the same message to a second person, rewrite it.
Who Vic Keller is, for your purposes
Source ruleVic Keller is the principal behind EPIC's offers: private strategy sessions with him, the six-month MBA, the Boardroom he leads, the Cabo retreats at his private club, and the annual mentorship with him and the EPIC executive team. Owners buy these through this team. Every message you send is read as coming from his organization. You speak as a member of his team, never as Vic.
Your role
Source ruleYou own
- Replying to inbound DMs and assigned replies, starting with an answer to what they asked
- Understanding the owner's business and the decision they are facing
- Explaining the offer accurately, within the offer sheet
- Qualifying through conversation, not a questionnaire
- Routing to the right next conversation and booking the fit conversation with the verified closer
- Writing the handoff brief and keeping the CRM record accurate, with one owner and one next action
- Following up inside the approved cadence
- Honoring a request to stop immediately
- The conversation, until the next named person acknowledges the handoff
You do not own
- Closing, taking payment, or collecting card or account details in DMs
- Admission to any program. EPIC decides. Boardroom needs EPIC's final written approval, Mentorship acceptance is subject to EPIC approval, and Cabo admission is screened
- Discounts, payment plans, financing, refunds, holds, custom scope or special access
- Guarantees of any kind
- Legal, tax, financial or investment advice
- Speaking for Vic or promising time with him
- Editing GHL, ManyChat or any automation
- Cold outbound or DM automation, until it is released
The standard on every message
RecommendedWrite like the chief of staff to a founder: precise, discreet, unhurried. The prospect should feel they are dealing with a competent representative of a serious organization.
| Habit | In practice |
|---|---|
| Truthful | Say who you are. Never imply you spoke to Vic. State prices and scope exactly as written. Say "I'll confirm that" rather than guess. |
| Relevant | Every message answers something they said or states a real reason you are writing. No filler compliments. |
| Composed | Never needy, never pushy, never over-familiar. No urgency you cannot evidence. A no is a complete answer. |
| Concise | One to three short sentences. One question per message. No emojis. No paragraphs. |
| Accountable | Every conversation has a recorded disposition, one owner and a dated next action or a stated reason it stopped. |
Sounds like
- Hi [Name], I'm [Setter], part of Vic Keller's team.
- Happy to help with that. What decision are you working through?
- Understood. Thanks for letting me know.
- I'll confirm that with the team and come back to you [today].
Never sounds like
- Hey man, quick question!
- Just checking in again 🙏
- This is a limited opportunity and seats are going fast.
- I spoke with Vic and he wants you in.
Avoid by default
Source ruleRecommended| Do not use | Use instead |
|---|---|
| "Hey", "Hey man", "Bro" | "Hi [Name]," |
| "Quick question" | Ask the question. |
| "Just checking in" | A specific reason that references what they said. |
| Excess emojis and exclamation marks | None. Plain, well-formed sentences. |
| Fake compliments, forced rapport | A precise reference to something real. |
| Artificial urgency or scarcity | Verified facts only: a confirmed date or a confirmed seat count. |
| "Free consultation", guru language, 10x promises | The actual format, the actual price, the actual boundary. |
How to use this SOP
- Start from the situation. Use What should I do? (top right, or press ?) and pick what is in front of you.
- Search when you need a specific thing. Press / and type a word such as pricing, follow up or guarantee.
- Keep the Cheat Sheet open in a second window or from the top bar while you work.
- Read the whole SOP once before your first live conversation. The judgment is in the explanations, not only the scripts.
Which source wins when two disagree
- The EPIC Offer Sheet for prices, deliverables and what not to promise.
- EPIC's written approvals (Kyle for admission, scope, dates and terms).
- The Shared Sales Operations SOP and this DM SOP for process.
- Scripts and examples last. They illustrate, they do not override.
If two sources conflict and you cannot tell which controls, do not quote either. Ask the sales lead.
Tags you will see
- In scope Work covered by the current inbound DM remit.
- Pending release Not to be used live until the RN sales lead or EPIC releases it.
- Source rule Taken directly from the offer sheet or sales SOPs.
- Recommended Craft guidance added to improve execution. Not an EPIC rule.
What is in scope and what is not yet released
Source rule| Capability | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Replies to inbound DMs and assigned replies | In scope | Ronak handles the assigned inbound queue initially. |
| Cold outbound DMs or calling | Pending release | Not authorized. Needs agreed platforms, scripts, permissions and a released route. |
| DM automation and GHL or ManyChat configuration | Pending release | Setters never repair or edit configuration. Report problems. |
| Booking links, closer names, claims register | Pending release | The RN sales lead must release and test these. Until then, ask. |
| Follow-up cadence | Pending release | Proposed timings only. David must release the active cadence. |
| Admission criteria | Source rule | Use EPIC's latest written criteria. The older $1M and $3M revenue bands were planning assumptions, not rules. |
| Numeric DM quotas or KPIs | Source rule | None established. Do not invent targets. |
Before you send your first DM
RecommendedOffer Mastery
Know the offer well enough to answer basic questions with confidence, and to know exactly where your authority stops.
Offer overview and positioning
RecommendedEPIC meets an owner at a decision or a constraint. The formats differ in how much of Vic's and the team's time the owner needs, and how long the relationship runs: a decision (Strategy), a framework and cohort (MBA), a room (Boardroom), a working event with a small group (Cabo), or a year of private access (Mentorship).
Core problem
- A high-stakes decision the owner is carrying alone
- Decisions that still route through the owner
- Growth that adds work without improving profit
- A layered decision, pivot or growth constraint
- Inconsistent implementation
- Preparing for an exit, or wanting a durable business
Desired outcome
- Clarity on the decision, with a usable plan
- A repeatable framework and operating rhythm
- A business that is more profitable and less owner-dependent
- Accountability while implementing
- Relationships with serious peers
Language that fits Vic
- People
- Useful relationships
- Profitability
- A durable business
- Enterprise value
Use these in your own words, explain what they mean practically, and never promise them as outcomes.
The six offers
Select an offer to see its 30-second explanation, plain-language deliverables and boundaries. Cabo and Strategy have the most detail.
Strategy Single Session
Source rule- Price
- $7,997
- Delivery
- One private 90-minute session
- Offer page
- https://vickeller.com/strategy
- What it is
- A focused private strategy engagement for one important business decision, constraint or next move.
- Who it is for
- An owner with one clear, high-stakes decision who wants direct feedback and a usable action plan, and does not need an ongoing advisory relationship.
- Boundary
- No ongoing access, additional calls or implementation. No different price without EPIC's written approval. No guaranteed growth. Sold only where EPIC is currently offering it.
- Routing
- Confirm EPIC is currently offering the Single Session before you position it.
The Single Session is one private 90-minute strategy session on a single business decision. The team reviews your intake beforehand so the conversation starts with your real constraints. Afterward you get a written game plan and the full recording. It doesn't include ongoing access, more calls or implementation.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Pre-session intake and context review | The team reviews what you send so the session starts with your actual constraints. | Specify the intake format or length. |
| One 90-minute private strategy session | Focused on the client's highest-priority decision. | Say who leads it. The offer sheet does not state it for the Single Session. Ask Kyle. |
| Written game plan | Documents the decision, risks, priorities and next actions. | Imply implementation support. |
| Complete session recording | The client keeps it and can revisit it. | Offer additional calls. |
Best-fit client
- An owner with one clear, high-stakes decision
- A leader who wants direct feedback and a usable action plan
- Someone who does not need an ongoing advisory relationship
Do not promise
- Ongoing access, additional calls or implementation services
- A different price unless EPIC approves it in writing
- Guaranteed growth
Strategy Intensive
Source rule- Price
- $9,997
- Delivery
- Two private 90-minute sessions
- Offer page
- https://vickeller.com/strategy
- What it is
- A deeper private engagement for a layered decision. The first session clarifies the decision and sets the plan. The second pressure-tests execution.
- Who it is for
- A founder navigating a layered decision, pivot or growth constraint who needs both direction and a second strategic checkpoint, and will execute between sessions.
- Boundary
- No in-person work, additional calls or indefinite access. No done-for-you implementation. Any nonstandard commitment needs EPIC's advance written approval.
- Routing
- Use when the decision has layers and the person will act between sessions.
The Intensive is two private 90-minute sessions with Vic, built for a layered decision. The first session clarifies the decision and sets the plan, and the second pressure-tests execution. You get a written game plan after each session, direct access to Vic between sessions for the defined engagement period, and recordings of both. It doesn't include indefinite access or done-for-you implementation.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Two 90-minute private sessions with Vic Keller | Session one clarifies and plans. Session two pressure-tests execution. | Add a third call or in-person time. |
| Pre-session intake reviewed before each session | Each session starts from the client's current reality. | Nothing to add. |
| Written game plan after each session | A documented plan after both sessions. | Nothing to add. |
| Direct access to Vic between sessions | For the defined engagement period only. | State the length of the period (the sheet does not define it; ask Kyle) or imply indefinite access. |
| Priority scheduling | Sessions are scheduled with priority. | Promise a specific date. |
| Complete recordings of both sessions | Kept by the client. | Nothing to add. |
Best-fit client
- A founder navigating a layered decision, pivot or growth constraint
- A client who needs direction and a second strategic checkpoint
- An operator ready to execute between sessions
Do not promise
- In-person work, additional calls or indefinite access
- Done-for-you implementation
- Any nonstandard commitment without EPIC's advance written approval
EPIC MBA
Source rule- Price
- $14,997
- Delivery
- Six-month program
- Offer page
- https://www.epicmba.com/
- What it is
- A six-month guided business-building program combining structured frameworks, coaching, implementation support and a curated peer environment.
- Who it is for
- A founder who needs a repeatable framework rather than one isolated answer, and who will participate consistently and implement between sessions.
- Boundary
- No different term or schedule, no in-person experience, no specific level of access to Vic, and no promised results. Progress depends on participation and execution.
- Routing
- Match when the gap is consistent implementation or a missing framework.
EPIC MBA is a six-month guided program: a structured curriculum informed by the four stages of EPIC Business Growth, live guided sessions, assigned coaching and accountability, practical tools, and a curated community of owners. It's built for people who will participate and implement between sessions. It doesn't promise a particular level of access to Vic or specific results.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Structured curriculum | Informed by the four stages of EPIC Business Growth. | List or name the four stages unless EPIC has approved wording. |
| Live guided sessions | The current cohort calendar is issued during onboarding. | Quote session dates or frequency. |
| Assigned coaching, accountability and implementation guidance | Throughout the six months. | Promise a level of access to Vic. |
| EPIC frameworks, tools and resources | Translate strategy into operating action. | Nothing to add. |
| Curated community of owners and leaders | Learning alongside one another. | Promise introductions or outcomes. |
Best-fit client
- A founder who needs a repeatable framework, not one answer
- An operator willing to participate consistently and implement
- An owner who values coaching, accountability and peer learning
Do not promise
- A different term or schedule
- An in-person experience
- A specific level of access to Vic
- Results
EPIC Boardroom
Source rule- Price
- $60,000
- Delivery
- 12-month private membership
- Offer page
- https://www.epicboardroom.com/
- What it is
- A selective 12-month community for serious founders, led by Vic Keller. EPIC reviews every admission.
- Who it is for
- A serious owner, operator or investor who strengthens the room and wants long-term relationships rather than transactional networking, and will contribute experience, candor and value.
- Boundary
- No promise of admission. No promised event schedules, guest access, travel, lodging or separately priced experiences beyond EPIC's current written terms.
- Routing
- RN-managed sales conversation. Get EPIC's written approval before accepting any Boardroom client. No generic form: the recorded no-forms, no-lengthy-application and no-revenue-threshold promises stand until Kyle confirms the approved route.
Boardroom is a selective 12-month private membership for serious founders, operators and investors. Vic hosts monthly virtual sessions, and members join a curated community with founder-level conversations about real decisions. EPIC reviews every admission, so I can't promise a seat, and events and experiences follow EPIC's current written terms.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Private monthly virtual sessions hosted by Vic | Boardroom sessions, monthly. | Promise in-person time with Vic. |
| Curated community of founders, operators and investors | A selected room. | Promise who is in the room. |
| Founder-level conversations | Real decisions, challenges and opportunities. | Nothing to add. |
| Gatherings and experiences | According to the current EPIC calendar and written event terms. | Quote schedules, guests, travel or lodging. |
| Relationship-building and introductions | Relevant introductions within the room when appropriate. | Guarantee any introduction. |
Best-fit client
- A serious owner, operator or investor who strengthens the room
- A founder seeking long-term relationships, not transactional networking
- A leader willing to contribute experience, candor and value
Do not promise
- Admission. EPIC keeps final written approval on every seat
- Event schedules, guest access, travel, lodging or separately priced experiences beyond current written terms
EPIC Cabo Retreat
Source rule- Price
- $20,000 standard, $30,000 VIP total
- Delivery
- Two-day event, January 2027
- Offer page
- https://www.epicretreats.vickeller.com/
- What it is
- Two separate two-day founder events in January 2027 with Vic at his private club in Cabo San Lucas. Each event has 30 paid attendees: 20 standard seats and 10 VIP packages. A VIP package uses one of the 30 seats.
- Who it is for
- A business owner carrying an important decision or recurring constraint, who will be open, contribute and work in a small group, and can travel for the full experience.
- Boundary
- Flights and lodging are not included. Two fixed tiers: no early-bird pricing, no unapproved discounts. Admission is screened. The business work leads; Cabo and the room support it.
- Routing
- Screening, confirmed dates and verified inventory are required. Kyle confirms dates and availability. Lead with the owner's business decision.
Cabo is two separate two-day founder events in January 2027 at Vic's private club in Cabo San Lucas. The work comes first: working sessions on your own business decision and an operating rhythm, in a small group of up to 30. Standard is $20,000. VIP is $30,000 total and adds a Day 1 business breakdown with Vic, an exit-readiness review, an enterprise-value blueprint and the yacht experience. Flights and lodging are separate, and admission is screened.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Standard ($20,000): welcome reception and dinner, farewell dinner, lunches, group experience | All on-site meals and programming are included. | Include flights or lodging. |
| Working sessions incl. the EPIC Sight Picture and a weekly, monthly and quarterly operating rhythm | The business work at the center of the event. | Define the Sight Picture beyond this. Ask Kyle for approved wording. |
| Plus-one | Welcome at the two dinners. | Extend it to working sessions or the yacht. |
| VIP ($30,000 total): everything in standard | VIP is the $20,000 standard plus a $10,000 upgrade. | Describe VIP as an additional attendee. It uses one of the 30 seats. |
| VIP: Day 1 morning business breakdown with Vic | VIP only. | Imply standard attendees get a private breakdown. |
| VIP: exit-readiness review and customized enterprise-value blueprint | VIP only. | Promise a buyer, a valuation or a sale. |
| VIP: private yacht experience | VIP is the only way onto the yacht. | Offer the yacht to standard attendees. |
Best-fit client
- A business owner carrying an important decision or recurring constraint
- A founder willing to be open, contribute and work in a small group
- A qualified buyer able to travel and take part in the full experience
Do not promise
- Exact dates until Kyle confirms them in writing for the selected event
- "Last seats" without a verified count, event identifier and timestamp
- A seat hold, early-bird price or discount
- Collecting payment in DMs
- More than 10 VIP per event
Private Annual Mentorship
Source rule- Price
- $100,000
- Delivery
- 12-month private engagement
- Offer page
- https://vickeller.com/strategy
- What it is
- A 12-month strategic relationship with Vic Keller and the EPIC executive team for operators making consequential moves throughout the year. Acceptance is selective and subject to EPIC approval.
- Who it is for
- An established operator making decisions that matter every quarter, who values recurring strategic access and accountability and has the scope, pace and complexity to use a year-long relationship.
- Boundary
- No guaranteed introductions, capital access, transaction outcomes or results. No fiduciary, investment, legal or implementation commitments on EPIC's behalf. Acceptance is not promised.
- Routing
- RN-managed sales conversation with the assigned closer. EPIC reviews fit before any access is promised.
The Private Annual Mentorship is a 12-month relationship with Vic and the EPIC executive team: twelve monthly 90-minute private sessions, direct access between sessions, a personal accountability coach, and strategic reviews of deals, acquisitions, exits, capital, hires and restructures. Acceptance is selective and subject to EPIC approval, and nothing about introductions, capital or outcomes is guaranteed.
Deliverables in plain language
| Deliverable | What you may say | Do not add |
|---|---|---|
| Twelve monthly 90-minute private sessions with Vic | A year of recurring strategic time. | Nothing to add. |
| Direct access to Vic and the EPIC executive team between sessions | Between scheduled sessions. | Define response times or hours. |
| Personal accountability coach and implementation resources | Support to act on the plan. | Imply done-for-you implementation. |
| Strategic reviews | Deals, opportunities, acquisitions, exits, capital, hires and restructures. | Imply fiduciary, legal or investment advice. |
| Written game plans and complete recordings | After sessions. | Nothing to add. |
| Curated introductions | To operators, capital and advisors when relevant and appropriate. | Guarantee any introduction or capital. |
Best-fit client
- An established operator making decisions that matter every quarter
- A leader who values recurring strategic access and accountability
- A client with the scope, pace and complexity to use a year well
Do not promise
- Introductions, capital access, transaction outcomes or business results
- Fiduciary, investment, legal or implementation commitments
- Acceptance
Pricing and commercial rules
Source rule| Offer | Price | Delivery | Final yes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Strategy Single Session | $7,997 | One private 90-minute session | EPIC offers it currently |
| Strategy Intensive | $9,997 | Two private 90-minute sessions | Standard terms |
| EPIC MBA | $14,997 | Six-month program | Standard terms |
| EPIC Boardroom | $60,000 | 12-month private membership | EPIC written admission approval |
| Cabo standard | $20,000 | Two-day event, 30 seats per event | Screened admission |
| Cabo standard plus VIP | $30,000 total | Two-day event, 10 VIP seats per event | Screened admission; inventory verified |
| Private Annual Mentorship | $100,000 | 12-month private engagement | Selective EPIC approval |
- Sell only the prices and deliverables on the offer sheet. Pricing, payment terms, claims and discounts require EPIC approval.
- State the actual price plainly when asked. Do not hide it behind a call, a staged reveal or an invented value stack.
- Cabo has two fixed tiers. No early-bird pricing. VIP is the $20,000 standard plus a $10,000 upgrade, $30,000 total.
- No approved payment plan, financing, deposit, hold or refund terms are available to you. Say so, and ask the sales lead to confirm EPIC's written terms.
- Any change to scope or price needs EPIC's written approval before it is offered.
Which format fits which need
Source rule| What the person describes | Likely route | Setter boundary |
|---|---|---|
| One important decision, wants a focused private session | Strategy Single Session, $7,997 | Confirm EPIC is currently offering it |
| A layered decision that needs a second execution checkpoint | Strategy Intensive, $9,997 | Two sessions; access between them only for the defined period |
| Structured learning, coaching and accountability across six months | EPIC MBA, $14,997 | No promised level of Vic access |
| A selective founder community with recurring strategic conversations | Boardroom, $60,000 | EPIC final written admission approval |
| Work on a real business decision in a small two-day founder setting | Cabo, $20,000 or $30,000 VIP | Screening, confirmed dates, verified inventory |
| Recurring private strategic support for a full year | Private Annual Mentorship, $100,000 | Selective EPIC acceptance |
| No current fit, or not ready | Useful approved content, or an agreed later date | No forced booking, no invented low-ticket offer, no endless follow-up |
What you can point to
Recommended- Direct work on the owner's real business decision, starting from the owner's intake.
- A written game plan and complete session recordings in the Strategy formats.
- Defined access to Vic, which differs by format. Be exact about which.
- A curated, selective room (Boardroom) and a screened small group (Cabo).
- Practical operating tools: EPIC frameworks (MBA) and an operating rhythm (Cabo).
These are the offer sheet's own strengths. Describe them. Do not rank EPIC against other providers, and do not claim results.
What the offer does and does not do
Source ruleIt does
- Give an owner structured time with Vic or his team on a real decision
- Produce written plans, frameworks and recordings as stated per offer
- Provide accountability and a peer environment in the formats that include them
- Run selective rooms that EPIC curates and approves
It does not
- Guarantee growth, enterprise value, a sale, a buyer, introductions, capital or any result
- Include done-for-you implementation
- Provide fiduciary, investment or legal commitments
- Include flights or lodging for Cabo
- Guarantee admission, access, schedules or a pre-purchase call with Vic
Things you can say, and things you never claim
Source ruleYou can say
- The price and deliverables exactly as on the offer sheet
- "EPIC reviews every admission" for Boardroom, and "acceptance is selective and subject to EPIC approval" for Mentorship
- "Flights and lodging are separate" for Cabo
- "There isn't a guaranteed financial return. What matters is whether the format fits the decision you're working on."
- "I'll confirm that with the team and come back to you."
You never claim
- Results, ROI, "pays for itself", cost-of-waiting claims
- Discounts, early-bird pricing, bonuses, special packages, financing
- Last seats, holds or exact dates without written confirmation
- That you spoke with Vic, or that Vic reviewed this prospect
- Vic's credentials, exits or numbers from memory
- That a booking means admission, or that payment means admission
Offer glossary: say it exactly, add nothing
Source rule| Term | What the sheet establishes | Care |
|---|---|---|
| EPIC Sight Picture | A working session at the Cabo retreat. | No approved definition exists in your materials. Ask Kyle before explaining it. |
| Operating rhythm | A practical weekly, monthly and quarterly rhythm, taught in Cabo working sessions. | Do not describe the content in detail. |
| Business breakdown session | Day 1 morning, with Vic, VIP only. | Standard attendees do not receive it. |
| Exit-readiness review | A VIP deliverable. | Not a promise of a sale, buyer or price. |
| Enterprise-value blueprint | A customized VIP deliverable. | Not a valuation or outcome promise. |
| Four stages of EPIC Business Growth | The MBA curriculum is informed by them. | Do not list the stages without approved wording. |
| Direct access between sessions | Intensive: for the defined engagement period. Mentorship: Vic and the EPIC executive team. | Never "unlimited". The period length is not in your materials. |
| Curated introductions | Boardroom and Mentorship, when relevant and appropriate. | Never guaranteed. |
ICP
Who is a strong fit, who needs more qualification, and who should not be pursued.
Ideal prospect
Source ruleRecommendedThe sources give a best-fit profile for each offer, not a single ICP document. This profile is built from those best-fit lines and the discovery fields in the qualification process. It contains no invented revenue threshold.
- Who they are
- An owner, founder or operator, and for Boardroom an investor, who carries the decision personally or knows exactly who must be involved. Serious, candid and willing to contribute.
- Business
- An operating business with a real team and recurring decisions. For Mentorship, an established operator whose decisions matter every quarter.
- Professional profile
- Has authority over the decision. Willing to participate consistently, implement between sessions and be open in a small group.
- Stage
- Varies by offer. One decision: Strategy. Needs a framework: MBA. Wants long-term peers: Boardroom. Consequential choices every quarter: Mentorship.
- Financial indicators
- A self-reported revenue range with its period, and team size. These are context, not gates. Investment readiness is tested by stating the price of the plausible offer, never by asking about savings or balances.
- Problems
- Decisions still routing through the owner. Growth that adds work without improving profit. A layered decision or pivot. Inconsistent implementation. Exit preparation. A need for serious peers.
- Goals
- Clarity and a usable plan. A repeatable operating rhythm. A more profitable, less owner-dependent business. Accountability. Lasting relationships.
- Motivations
- Direct feedback, candor, accountability, and relationships that are long-term rather than transactional.
- Buying triggers
- A decision with a date. A pivot or restructure. Growth that is not improving the economics. A team waiting on the owner. Exit, acquisition, capital or hiring decisions. An upcoming EPIC event.
- Behavioral signals
- Describes a specific decision in their own words. Asks about format, scope, dates or what is expected of them. Names who else is involved. Accepts a stated price calmly.
- Profile and content signals
- Recommended Bio shows owner, founder or operator. A named business with a working site. Content or comments about hiring, scaling, operating decisions or exits. Engages with content on people, profitability or enterprise value.
Fit levels and what to do with each
Source ruleRecommendedStrong fit
- Owner or clear decision-maker
- A specific, real decision in their own words
- Has tried something already
- Timing is real and stated
- Accepts the stated price as something to consider
- Willing to participate and implement
- Wants help, not a guarantee
Action: qualify forward, then book.
Possible fit
- Real problem but vague decision
- Revenue or team unknown
- Decision partner not yet in the conversation
- Interested in an offer that does not match the need
- Cabo interest, travel unconfirmed
- Boardroom or Mentorship interest, contribution or scope unclear
Action: ask the one missing question. Borderline selective cases go to Kyle with facts.
Poor fit
- No operating business, or no decision to work on
- Wants done-for-you implementation
- Wants guaranteed results or a financial return
- Wants free advice or a free consultation in DMs
- Cabo as a holiday, or cannot travel
- Price clearly outside reach with no honest alternative
Action: respectful close with the factual reason, or an agreed later date. No downsell.
Disqualify, stop or route
- Asked to stop, or privacy concern: suppress
- Wrong person or invalid contact: suppress
- Existing client, billing or delivery question: route to EPIC
- Media, partnership, speaking, investment or deal: route to Kyle
- Another rep owns an active conversation: do not contact in parallel
- Abusive or threatening: stop, log, escalate
Action: stop selling. Follow Escalation Rules.
Judgment calls
Revenue is not a pass or fail
Record revenue as self-reported, with its period (monthly and annual are different fields). The older $1 million and $3 million bands were planning assumptions. Boardroom was recorded with no revenue threshold. Never reject a Boardroom candidate on revenue alone. Send borderline cases to Kyle with the facts.
A high-profile or high-value prospect gets the same process
Do not change your approach, promise special access or skip verification because someone is notable. Flag them to the sales lead or Kyle with the facts. High value is a reason for more care, not fewer checks.
Someone who wants help but cannot afford this offer
Find out whether the mismatch is price, timing or the type of help. Do not push financing, ask them to borrow, or move them to a cheaper offer merely to get a sale. A different offer is right only when it fits their actual need. Otherwise agree a later date or close respectfully.
An employee or assistant asks on the owner's behalf
Answer their factual questions. Ask whether the owner would like to be part of the conversation, because the decision and the fit conversation need the decision-maker. Do not collect the owner's private information through an intermediary.
Prospecting SOP
How to identify and assess a prospect, how much research is enough, and what stops you from sending anything.
Where prospects come from
| Source | Status | How to treat it |
|---|---|---|
| Inbound DM or keyword reply | In scope | Already a conversation. Read the original message, assign the inquiry type, then respond. See Conversation Starters. |
| Replies to Vic's stories, reels, posts and highlights | In scope | They started it. Respond to the substance. Do not treat an emoji or a reaction as buying intent. |
| People who engaged with Vic's content but did not message | Pending release | Warm signal, not permission. Requires a released outbound route. |
| Referrals and introductions | Pending release | Only with the referrer's recorded permission and a released route. |
| Earlier conversations with a later date agreed | In scope | Re-engage on the agreed date only, after a CRM check. |
| Lead-magnet or newsletter opt-ins | Source rule | A different stage. Deliver what was requested. Do not start a sales conversation because an email exists. |
| Purchased lists, scraped profiles, bulk tools | Source rule | Not part of this process. |
What to look for on a profile
Recommended- Identity and role
- Owner, founder, operator or investor. A bio that names a business and a role. A link to a working site.
- The business
- What it does, roughly how large (team, locations, offers), and whether it appears to be an operating business.
- Content to review
- Recent posts, stories and comments, and anything they have said publicly about hiring, pricing, scaling, leadership or exits. Review the last few weeks, not the whole feed.
- Signals that matter
- A decision in view (expansion, restructure, new leadership, launch, acquisition). Language about owner dependence or growth strain. Engagement with Vic's themes.
- Signals that do not matter
- Follower count, lifestyle imagery, general motivational content, how long they have followed.
How much research to do
RecommendedEnough to answer three questions in one line each. No more.
- Why this person? Their role and business.
- Why now? A verified, recent signal.
- Why us? The honest link between that signal and what EPIC offers.
If you cannot answer all three, do not message. Two to three minutes per profile is a reasonable ceiling, and a recommendation rather than a rule. The sources set no research quota.
What counts as meaningful personalization
RecommendedThe objective is relevance, not proof that you looked at their profile. Apply the swap test: if you could replace their name and send the same message to someone else, it is not personalized.
| Level | Example | Verdict |
|---|---|---|
| Name only | Hi John, love your content. | Fails. Flattery with no relevance. |
| Content mention | Great post on hiring last week. | Weak. Shows you looked, not why you are writing. |
| Context and relevance | You wrote about moving pricing decisions to your regional managers. Did that transfer hold, or do those decisions still come back to you? | Target. Specific, verified, and tied to a decision. |
A good personalization links one verified observation to one decision the owner may be facing, then asks a question. It never pretends familiarity and never cites something you could not verify.
Outreach gate: may I message this person?
RecommendedPending releaseWhat should prevent outreach
Source ruleRecommended- An existing CRM record, an owner, an active conversation or an appointment
- Any opt-out, suppression or earlier decline
- An existing client or a client-service issue
- A channel that has not been released
- An offer that is not currently available (for example, Cabo dates or inventory not confirmed)
- Inability to state relevance in one sentence
- Anything that would require you to infer private information
Conversation Starters
Twelve different ways to open, each tied to a real trigger. Match the trigger, not the template.
Anatomy of an opening message
RecommendedSource ruleThree short sentences, no emoji, one question, around 45 words at most. The word count is a recommendation. Existing thread? Say where you picked up: "Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] from Vic's team. I picked up your message about [their actual question]. [Accurate answer]. Is [their stated goal] still what you're looking to work through?"
1. Inbound reply: answer first
- When to use
- Someone messages Vic's account with a question or a keyword such as Cabo.
- Trigger
- Their first message.
- Objective
- Earn trust with a precise answer, then learn the decision behind the inquiry. Read the whole message first and classify it (retreat, working with Vic, price only, existing client, media, compliment, stop).
Can you send Cabo details?
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. Cabo is two founder events in January 2027, built around working sessions on your own business. Standard is $20,000 and VIP is $30,000 total; flights and lodging are separate. What would you want to work on in the business while you're there?
- What to avoid
- Dumping every offer and link. Opening with enthusiasm instead of an answer. More than one question. Quoting dates that Kyle has not confirmed.
2. Story reply
- When to use
- They replied to one of Vic's stories with a comment or question. If you are initiating from a story view, that is outbound and pending release.
- Trigger
- A written reply to a story.
- Objective
- Respond to the substance of what they said and find out whether it is a live business decision.
This is exactly the problem in my company.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] with Vic Keller's team. You said this is the problem in your company. Which part of it is most present right now?
- What to avoid
- Replying to an emoji with a pitch. Treating a reaction as buying intent. Saying Vic will see this. If they sent only an emoji, a reply may not be appropriate. Do not force a conversation.
3. Reel response
- When to use
- They shared, replied to or reacted to a reel on a topic such as decisions, people or profitability.
- Trigger
- A share or reply on a specific reel.
- Objective
- Find out whether the reel's topic is live in their own business or was simply passed along.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. You sent over the reel on [topic]. Is that something you're dealing with in your own business, or were you passing it along?
- What to avoid
- Assuming a share equals pain. "Saw you liked our reel!" Pitching Cabo or any offer in the first reply.
4. Post or comment response
- When to use
- They left a substantive public comment that describes a real decision. DMing a commenter first is outbound and pending release.
- Trigger
- A comment that goes beyond agreement.
- Objective
- Continue a real thought privately, only when the comment signals a decision rather than an opinion.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. Your comment about [specific point] reads like a decision you're actually facing. Is that something you're working through now?
- What to avoid
- Messaging every commenter. Complimenting the comment. Copy-pasting the same line to several people.
5. Highlight response
- When to use
- They ask about or respond to a Highlight such as Cabo, Boardroom or MBA.
- Trigger
- A question referencing a Highlight.
- Objective
- Treat the Highlight as the context, answer the specific question, and find out what they would want from it.
Saw the Boardroom highlight. How does it work?
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. Boardroom is a selective 12-month private membership: monthly virtual sessions hosted by Vic and a curated community of founders, operators and investors. EPIC reviews every admission. What would you want from a room like that?
- What to avoid
- Implying admission. Sending a form (Boardroom's no-forms promise is unresolved). Leading with price unless they asked.
6. Direct, relevance-led message
- When to use
- You have a verified person, business and reason, no CRM conflict, and a released outbound route.
- Trigger
- You identified a relevant decision through research.
- Objective
- Open a conversation on one specific decision. Make it easy to decline.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. I came across [Company]'s move into [specific, verified]. Vic's team works with owners on decisions like that, so I wanted to ask directly: is [decision] something you're weighing now?
- What to avoid
- "Quick question". Fake compliments. Pitching in the first message. Asking for a call. Mentioning price. A long introduction.
7. Business-specific observation
- When to use
- Public information shows a decision point: a second location, a leadership change, a new product, a restructure.
- Trigger
- A verified change in the business.
- Objective
- Show that you understood the business and ask how they are handling the decision it creates.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. I saw [Company] now operates from [two locations]. When a second location opens, which decisions are still coming through you rather than the local team?
- What to avoid
- Assuming a problem exists. Speculating negatively about their business. Citing figures you cannot verify.
8. Industry observation
- When to use
- A verified development affects their industry: a rule change, a cost shift, a demand change.
- Trigger
- A real, checkable industry event.
- Objective
- Start a peer-level conversation about how they are responding. No pitch.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] with Vic Keller's team. With [verified development] affecting [industry], I'm curious how owners in [segment] are adjusting pricing or staffing. Is it changing your plans?
- What to avoid
- Unverified claims. Generic trend commentary. Implying that Vic endorses your read of the market.
9. Trigger or event-based
- When to use
- They announced a public milestone: an acquisition, a hire, a launch, an exit, an award.
- Trigger
- A public announcement.
- Objective
- Acknowledge it precisely and ask what decision the milestone puts in front of them next.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. I saw the announcement about [event]. What decision does that put in front of you next?
- What to avoid
- "Congrats!!" with emojis. Pivoting to price. Assuming financial details that are not public.
10. Referral or context-based
- When to use
- A named person suggested you reach out, and their permission is recorded.
- Trigger
- A verified referral.
- Objective
- Explain why you are writing using the shared context, and keep it low pressure.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. [Referrer] mentioned you were weighing [decision] and suggested we reach out. Is that still a live question for you?
- What to avoid
- Name-dropping without permission. Implying Vic personally referred them or reviewed them. Implying the referrer vouches for the offer.
11. Re-engaging an existing connection
- When to use
- An earlier conversation ended with an agreed later date, or had no outcome, and nobody else owns it and nothing suppresses it.
- Trigger
- The agreed date or event has arrived.
- Objective
- Pick up the thread exactly where it stopped.
Hi [Name], [Setter] from Vic Keller's team. In [month] you said [decision] would be clearer after [event]. Has it moved?
- What to avoid
- "Just checking in". Restarting a full sequence. Contacting someone who declined or asked to stop. Skipping the CRM check.
12. Selective-offer inquiry
- When to use
- They ask about Boardroom, the Annual Mentorship or Cabo VIP.
- Trigger
- An inquiry about a selective offer.
- Objective
- Set accurate expectations about selectivity, then learn the business and what they would contribute and want.
Hi [Name], I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. Boardroom is selective and EPIC reviews every admission, so I'd like to understand the business first. What do you run, and what would you want from a room of founders and operators?
- What to avoid
- Promising acceptance. Probing for wealth. Asking for revenue before purpose. Imposing a generic application form.
Conversation Framework
Six stages, each with a purpose. Know why a stage exists and you will know when to move on.
The architecture
RecommendedContext, Relevance, Discovery, Problem, Impact, Desired outcome, Qualification, Fit, Next step. Nine moves, grouped into six stages you can track at a glance. Not every conversation visits every stage in order. Move on when you have enough. Return when something unclear appears.
- Answer, then ask. Respond to what they asked before you move forward.
- One question at a time. Short messages.
- Use their words. Do not make them repeat anything they already said.
- Two good answers beat a full questionnaire. Skip what has been answered.
- Write down facts, label interpretations. Self-reported means self-reported.
Opening stage
- Objective
- Establish who you are, answer what they asked, and earn the right to ask a question.
- Why this stage exists
- The prospect decides in one message whether you are worth a reply. A clear identity and a real answer build trust before any discovery.
What you are trying to learn
- What they came for
- Which type of inquiry this is: retreat, working with Vic, price only, existing client, media or partnership, compliment, or stop
Questions you can ask
- What are you building, and what are you working through in the business right now?
- What would you want to work on in your business during the two days?
- Were you looking for details on the Cabo retreat, or another way to work with Vic?
- What prompted your message?
Signals to look for
- A reply with specifics
- They name a decision or a topic
- A scoped question about format or dates
Warning signals
- One-word replies
- A request for something free
- Hostility toward the offer or brand
- How to transition
- Once they tell you what they want, move to who they are: "What does the business do, and what's your role in it?"
- Mistakes to avoid
- Pitching before answering
- Two questions in a row
- No identity line
- Asking for revenue in the first exchange
- Pasting a template
Discovery stage
- Objective
- Understand the business and the person's role well enough to know what kind of decision they carry.
- Why this stage exists
- You cannot judge fit without knowing who decides and how the business works. Stage informs the route. It is not an admission gate.
What you are trying to learn
- Business model
- Role and authority
- Team size
- Self-reported revenue range with its period
Questions you can ask
- What does the business do, and what's your role in it?
- How big is the team today?
- Roughly what annual revenue range are you operating in? It helps us understand the stage of the business.
Signals to look for
- Owner, founder or operator
- A real team
- Open about the business
Warning signals
- No operating business
- No authority over the decision
- Evasive on everything after two gentle attempts
- How to transition
- "That helps. What's the decision or bottleneck taking the most attention right now?"
- Mistakes to avoid
- Revenue before any context
- Treating it as a form
- Accepting a title as authority
- Asking for confidential figures, deal documents or personal balances
Problem stage
- Objective
- Surface the real decision or constraint, how it shows up day to day, what has been tried and what better looks like, in their words.
- Why this stage exists
- This is the heart of the conversation. The offer is only relevant to the extent it fits the decision. Their own words become the handoff.
What you are trying to learn
- The decision or constraint
- What they have tried
- How it shows up (the impact, in their words)
- What they want to be clearer on
Questions you can ask
- What's the decision or bottleneck taking the most attention right now?
- What have you tried so far?
- Where is that showing up in the business day to day?
- Who else on the team feels that bottleneck?
- What would you want to be clearer on after getting help?
- Owner dependence: Which decisions could your team take off your plate if they had clearer authority or support?
- Growth: Is the growth improving profit, or mainly adding work?
- Exit: What preparation or operating decision are you considering?
Signals to look for
- Specific, recurring, owner-level
- Has already tried something
- Can say what clearer would look like
Warning signals
- Venting with no decision
- Wants someone else to do the work
- Seeks a guaranteed result
- Still vague after two attempts
- How to transition
- Reflect it back: "So the decision is [x], it shows up as [y], and you'd want to be clearer on [z]. Have I got that right?"
- Mistakes to avoid
- Diagnosing for them
- Offering solutions in DMs
- Leading questions
- Inventing a cost of waiting or implying ROI
- Manufacturing emotion
Qualification stage
- Objective
- Learn timing, the support they want, who else decides, price awareness and any offer-specific requirement.
- Why this stage exists
- A good conversation is not yet a booking. These facts decide whether a fit conversation will be productive for the prospect and the closer.
What you are trying to learn
- Timing and any decision date
- Support wanted: one decision, ongoing coaching, community, or a year of private access
- Decision participants
- Price awareness
- Cabo: travel and full participation
Questions you can ask
- Is there a decision date or something happening that makes this a priority now?
- Are you looking for focused help on this one decision, ongoing coaching as you implement, or a longer-term founder community?
- Who else would need to be involved in deciding on this?
- Cabo: Would you be able to travel to Cabo and participate in the full two-day program once the exact dates are confirmed?
Signals to look for
- Clear timing
- Names the format they want
- Decision-maker, or partner identified
- Takes the price calmly
Warning signals
- No timing and no decision
- Unresolved price rejection
- Unwilling to participate
- Decision-maker unreachable
- How to transition
- "Based on what you've told me, [format] looks more relevant than [alternative]."
- Mistakes to avoid
- Asking how much money they have
- Pushing financing
- Moving to a cheaper offer to get a sale
- Skipping price awareness
Fit stage
- Objective
- Match them to the best route, state the approved price and boundary, and test their reaction honestly. No fit is a valid conclusion.
- Why this stage exists
- Fit is a decision, not a feeling. Saying the price plainly and the boundary clearly protects Vic's reputation and prevents wasted calls.
What you are trying to learn
- Do they accept the scope and the boundary?
- Does the format match what they want?
- Do they understand that admission is selective, where it is?
Questions you can ask
- If the format is a fit, is that an investment you're prepared to consider?
- Which part is most relevant to what you want to work on?
Signals to look for
- Engages with specifics
- Asks how to start
- Compares tiers sensibly
Warning signals
- Asks for guarantees
- Wants something we do not offer
- Price objection remains unclear
- Wants only Vic
- How to transition
- Summarize in one line, then ask permission to arrange the fit conversation.
- Mistakes to avoid
- Overselling
- Bundling to raise the ticket
- Promising admission
- Mistaking interest for fit
Booking stage
- Objective
- One clean next step: the fit conversation with the verified closer (or an EPIC review where required), with expectations set and a complete handoff.
- Why this stage exists
- Booking is a promise to two people: the prospect and the closer. A weak handoff wastes both of their time.
What you are trying to learn
- Whether the prospect agrees
- The real booking record
Questions you can ask
- Summarize: You run [business] and want help with [decision]. You're considering [offer/format], and [timing] matters. Have I got that right?
- Ask permission: The next step would be a conversation with [closer] to check fit and walk through the details. Would that be useful?
Signals to look for
- Agrees to the conversation
- Confirms the summary
- Chooses a time
Warning signals
- Hesitation about the conversation
- A time that never materializes
- How to transition
- Send one approved link, verify the real booking, send one confirmation, complete the handoff. See Booking and Handoff.
- Mistakes to avoid
- A link before qualification
- Counting a sent link as a booking
- Collecting payment
- Stacking duplicate reminders
Qualification
Ten things to learn, why each matters, and when you have enough to book.
Qualification tracker
Source ruleTick what you have learned. The tracker shows what is still unknown and when the threshold is met. Nothing is saved or sent.
How to qualify without an interrogation
RecommendedSource rule- Answer, learn, ask. Every message answers something, learns something and asks one thing.
- Track silently. Use the tracker as your own memory, not as a script.
- One answer, many fields. "Regional services company, 18 employees, every decision comes through me" covers business, scale and the problem at once. Do not ask again.
- Offer two concrete options when they are vague, instead of repeating the question.
- Reflect before you advance. A one-line summary shows you listened and lets them correct you.
- Never collect confidential deal documents, personal account balances, credit scores, card details or credentials in DMs.
The ten criteria
Each follows the same pattern. Business and role, decision, outcome, timing, support wanted, investment readiness and decision participants are needed for every conversation. The rest round out the context and the route.
1. Business and role
- What we are determining
- What the business does, and whether this person owns, runs or influences the decision.
- Why it matters
- The offers are for owners and operators. Authority over the decision decides whether a fit conversation is useful.
- How to uncover it
- Ask what they are building. Their role usually emerges. Follow with the role question only if it does not.
- Example questions
- What does the business do, and what's your role in it?
- Positive signals
- Owner, founder, CEO, operator. Describes decisions as theirs.
- Negative signals
- Employee gathering information for someone else. No business. A gatekeeper.
- What happens next
- Positive: continue. Intermediary: ask whether the owner would like to be part of the conversation. No business: close respectfully.
2. Stage and scale
- What we are determining
- Team size, business model and a self-reported revenue range, with its period.
- Why it matters
- Informs the route and the closer's preparation. It is context, not an admission rule. The older $1M and $3M bands were planning assumptions.
- How to uncover it
- Ask about the team first. Ask about revenue only when it is relevant, with the reason, and skip it if volunteered. Accept ranges. Record whether monthly or annual and whether it is an estimate.
- Example questions
- How big is the team today?
- Roughly what annual revenue range are you operating in? It helps us understand the stage of the business.
- Positive signals
- An operating business with a real team and a stated range.
- Negative signals
- Declines all specifics after two natural attempts.
- What happens next
- Record with its period. Borderline for Boardroom or Mentorship: send Kyle the facts. Never reject on revenue alone.
3. Primary decision or constraint
- What we are determining
- The one decision or bottleneck taking the most attention.
- Why it matters
- The offer is relevant only if it fits the decision. Their wording becomes the handoff.
- How to uncover it
- Ask what is taking the most attention. If they say "grow", ask what is preventing growth. If they mention an exit, ask what preparation or operating decision they are considering.
- Example questions
- What's the decision or bottleneck taking the most attention right now?
- Where is that showing up in the business day to day?
- Positive signals
- Specific, recurring, owner-level, in their own words.
- Negative signals
- General venting, "just exploring", or a request for someone to do the work.
- What happens next
- Specific: go deeper on impact and outcome. Vague after two attempts: offer two concrete choices, then agree a later date or close.
4. Desired outcome
- What we are determining
- What they want to be clearer on or able to do after getting help.
- Why it matters
- Defines success without promising results, and lets you match the format.
- How to uncover it
- Ask what would be clearer after help. Keep it in business terms. Do not supply the outcome for them.
- Example questions
- What would you want to be clearer on after getting help?
- Positive signals
- A concrete outcome such as a decision made, a plan, a framework.
- Negative signals
- A guaranteed result, a financial return, or a vague wish.
- What happens next
- Positive: use it in the summary. Guarantee-seeking: state plainly there is none and check whether the format still fits.
5. What they have tried and who already helps
- What we are determining
- Prior attempts and any current advisor, coach or program.
- Why it matters
- Prevents duplicating work, shows seriousness, and surfaces the real gap.
- How to uncover it
- Ask what they have tried. If they mention an advisor, ask what that person covers, without criticizing them.
- Example questions
- What have you tried so far?
- Is that person helping with this decision, or a different part of the business?
- Positive signals
- Has tried something and still needs something more.
- Negative signals
- Fully served by an existing advisor for this exact decision.
- What happens next
- Gap exists: continue. Fully served: close warmly and leave the door open.
6. Timing
- What we are determining
- A real decision date or event that makes this a priority now.
- Why it matters
- Real timing decides priority and the follow-up path. Never manufacture urgency.
- How to uncover it
- Ask whether something is happening that makes it a priority. Accept "no date" as an answer.
- Example questions
- Is there a decision date or something happening that makes this a priority now?
- Positive signals
- A stated date, event or consequence.
- Negative signals
- No timing, no decision, no priority after being asked plainly.
- What happens next
- Dated: book accordingly. Later: record the agreed date and stop the present sequence.
7. Support wanted
- What we are determining
- Which format they need: focused help on one decision, ongoing coaching, a community, an event, or a year of private access.
- Why it matters
- This chooses the route. The wrong format wastes the call.
- How to uncover it
- Offer the options and let them choose. Do not lead with the highest ticket.
- Example questions
- Are you looking for focused help on this one decision, ongoing coaching as you implement, or a longer-term founder community?
- Positive signals
- Chooses one and explains why.
- Negative signals
- Wants something EPIC does not provide, such as done-for-you implementation.
- What happens next
- Match the route (see Offer Mastery). If nothing matches, say so.
8. Investment readiness
- What we are determining
- Whether they are prepared to consider the price of the plausible offer.
- Why it matters
- Price awareness prevents surprises on the call and respects their time.
- How to uncover it
- State the price of the offer you think fits. Do not ask what they have saved. Never ask for balances, credit scores or card details. If they say no, learn whether it is price, timing or the type of help.
- Example questions
- The standard Cabo retreat is $20,000. VIP is $30,000 total, and flights and lodging are separate. If the format is a fit, is that an investment you're prepared to consider?
- Positive signals
- Takes the price calmly, or asks what is included.
- Negative signals
- A firm no that persists after clarification.
- What happens next
- Positive: continue. Negative: do not push financing or downsell. Honest fit elsewhere, an agreed later date, or a respectful close.
9. Decision participants
- What we are determining
- Who else needs to be involved in the decision.
- Why it matters
- A partner or board member who is absent will stall the process. Better to invite them than to discover them later.
- How to uncover it
- Ask who else would be involved. Offer to include them in the conversation.
- Example questions
- Who else would need to be involved in deciding on this?
- Would you like your partner included?
- Positive signals
- Names the person and invites them.
- Negative signals
- "I'll ask my partner" with no way to bring them in.
- What happens next
- Note the participant in the handoff. Invite them to the fit conversation.
10. Offer-specific screens
- What we are determining
- The extra facts each route needs: Cabo travel and tier, MBA participation, Boardroom contribution, Mentorship scope.
- Why it matters
- Selective and event offers have their own requirements, and EPIC makes the final admission decision.
- How to uncover it
- Cabo: ask about travel for both days and which tier fits. MBA: ask whether they can participate consistently. Boardroom: ask what they would contribute and want from the room. Mentorship: ask about the scope and pace of decisions.
- Example questions
- Cabo: Would you be able to travel to Cabo and participate in the full two-day program once the exact dates are confirmed?
- Boardroom: What would you want from a room of founders and operators, and what would you bring to it?
- MBA: Can you commit to participating consistently and implementing between sessions?
- Positive signals
- Confirms the practical requirements and the intent.
- Negative signals
- Cannot travel, will not participate, or intends only to take.
- What happens next
- Positive: record it and continue. Negative: close warmly. Boardroom and Mentorship also require EPIC's written approval before any acceptance.
Qualification outcomes
Source rule| Outcome | When | Stage to record | Next |
|---|---|---|---|
| Qualified for conversation | Threshold met, they agree to a fit conversation | Qualified for conversation | Book and hand off |
| Keep qualifying | Key facts unknown | Qualifying | Ask the next best question |
| Route to EPIC | Boardroom or Mentorship borderline, scope or term question, media, partnership, investment | Per Kyle | Send Kyle the facts, say nothing is promised |
| Not now | Real interest, wrong timing, a date agreed | Deferred | One contextual contact at the agreed date |
| Not a fit | Factual mismatch with no honest alternative | Closed lost | Respectful close with the real reason |
| Stop | Opt-out, wrong person, harassment | Suppressed | Apply suppression, alert the owner |
Closed-lost reasons to record
No need. Mismatch. Timing. Investment not appropriate. Another option. Admission declined. Travel or schedule mismatch. No response after the approved cadence. Duplicate opportunity. Explicit decline. "Other" needs a factual note. Record the primary stated objection in their exact wording. Never guess a hidden motive, and never default an unknown concern to "needs to think".
Label what the prospect said as self-reported. Write unknown rather than guess.
Response Playbook
28 common situations. Each one gives you the objective, a recommended approach, an example, the reason and where to go next.
How to use the library
RecommendedFind the situation, read the objective, then write the response in your own words. The examples are a standard for tone and content, not a script to paste. Anything marked escalation means you do not improvise.
"What is this about?"
- Setter objective
- Give a clear identity and reason, and remove suspicion.
- Recommended approach
- Say who you are, why they are hearing from you, and ask what they want. If you initiated, name the specific reason and make declining easy.
Fair question. I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. You reached out through [story or DM], so I wanted to point you to the right place. EPIC offers a few ways to work with Vic, from a private strategy session to a founder retreat in Cabo. What prompted your message?
If you initiated (pending release): I'm [Setter] on Vic Keller's team. I wrote because [specific, verified reason]. If it isn't relevant, no problem at all.
- Why
- Transparency builds credibility. Vagueness reads as marketing.
- Escalation or next step
- Continue to discovery. If they ask who you are a second time, answer directly: "I'm [Setter], part of Vic's team. I help with questions and getting people to the right next conversation."
- "It's just a quick intro."
- Evasive answers about who you are
- Implying you are Vic
"What do you guys do?"
- Setter objective
- Give a 30-second answer that lets them self-select.
- Recommended approach
- Name the formats in plain language, then ask which is closest.
EPIC is how owners work with Vic Keller and his team on their business. There are a few formats: private strategy sessions for a specific decision, a six-month program called the EPIC MBA, a selective founder community called Boardroom, small-group retreats in Cabo, and a year-long private mentorship. Which of those is closest to what you're after?
Shorter: EPIC helps owners work through important business decisions with Vic and his team. Is there a decision you're working on?
- Why
- A short, clear answer respects their time and starts discovery.
- Escalation or next step
- Once they choose, go deeper on that offer. If none fits, ask what they are working through.
- Reciting the whole price list
- Buzzwords such as "transform" or "10x"
- Any claim of results
"Send me more information."
- Setter objective
- Send the right thing, not everything, and learn what they want to know.
- Recommended approach
- Ask which offer or topic. Send one approved resource, and record it.
Happy to. So I send the right thing: are you looking at Cabo, a private strategy session, the MBA or the Boardroom? I'll send the page for that one and answer anything it leaves out.
If the offer is known: Here is the page for [offer]: [approved link]. It covers [topic]. What would you like to know that it doesn't cover?
- Why
- "More information" often means they are not yet sure it is for them. A tailored answer opens discovery.
- Escalation or next step
- After they reply, resume discovery. Log the resource sent.
- Sending every link
- An unapproved PDF or deck
- "Just check the website."
"How much does it cost?"
- Setter objective
- Answer plainly, then check fit.
- Recommended approach
- State the relevant approved price at once. If the offer is unclear, ask which one, then give the exact price and what it includes. Add one fit question.
The standard Cabo retreat is $20,000, and VIP is $30,000 total. Flights and lodging are separate. Both include working sessions on your business. Is that the format you were asking about?
Which option are you looking at: Cabo, a private strategy session, the MBA or the Boardroom? I can give you the exact price and what's included.
- Why
- EPIC's presentation is price-visible. Hiding the price behind a call reads as evasive to a senior buyer.
- Escalation or next step
- Ask one fit question, then continue discovery. Pushback on price: see Objection Handling.
- Hiding the price behind a call
- A staged reveal
- "I can do a better price for you."
- Quoting a number you are unsure of
"Can I speak to Vic before deciding?"
- Setter objective
- Be clear about access without overpromising.
- Recommended approach
- Name who the first conversation is with, say you cannot promise a pre-purchase call with Vic, and clarify which offer includes the access they want.
The first fit conversation is with [closer]. I can't promise a pre-purchase call with Vic. I can help clarify which offer includes the access you're looking for.
The Intensive includes two private sessions with Vic and access between them for the defined period. Would that address what you're after?
- Why
- Access to Vic differs by offer. A promised call you cannot deliver damages trust.
- Escalation or next step
- If they insist, or claim a personal relationship with Vic, or are a notable figure: send Kyle the facts. Do not verify relationships over DM.
- "I'll ask Vic to call you."
- "Vic personally reviews every applicant."
- Implying you have spoken with him
"Can you get me a discount?"
- Setter objective
- Hold the price without sounding rigid.
- Recommended approach
- State that published prices apply and that you cannot change them. Offer to ask Kyle only if there is a real scope question.
We use the published offer prices. I can't change the price or add a special package. If there's a genuine scope question, I can ask Kyle.
If budget is the concern, tell me which part of the price is the issue, and I'll tell you what is possible within the published offers.
- Why
- Tiers are fixed, with no early-bird pricing and no unapproved discounts. A hint of flexibility weakens every other price you quote.
- Escalation or next step
- A genuine scope question: Kyle. Otherwise return to fit.
- "Let me see what I can do."
- Inventing a bonus
- Hinting at a future promotion
"Can I pay in installments?"
- Setter objective
- Be honest about what you cannot offer.
- Recommended approach
- Say there is no approved option available to you, and that the sales lead will confirm EPIC's written customer terms.
I don't have an approved payment-plan option to offer. I'll have the RN sales lead confirm EPIC's written customer payment terms before you decide.
- Why
- Customer deposits, installments, refunds and holds are unresolved in the current proposal. The earlier pay-in-full direction is not final policy.
- Escalation or next step
- Log the question. Ask the sales lead. Return with the confirmed answer only.
- Promising installments, a deposit or a hold
- Suggesting financing or borrowing
- Collecting payment details in DMs
"Is the hotel included?" (Cabo)
- Setter objective
- Answer accurately and flag what you must confirm.
- Recommended approach
- Say flights and lodging are separate, mention the preferred hotel guidance, and confirm whether a booking code exists for their event.
Flights and lodging are separate. EPIC provides preferred hotel guidance, and I'll confirm whether a booking code is available for your event.
- Why
- The sheet says EPIC may provide a JW Marriott booking code. "May" is not a promise.
- Escalation or next step
- Confirm with Kyle, then return with the answer.
- Quoting a hotel rate
- Promising a booking code
"Can my partner join everything?" (Cabo)
- Setter objective
- Be accurate about the plus-one.
- Recommended approach
- State the written allowance and refer anything additional to Kyle.
The written standard offer allows a plus-one at the two dinners. I can't extend that to the working sessions or the yacht. Kyle can confirm any additional written event terms.
- Why
- The plus-one allowance is limited to the two dinners. Family references never expand it.
- Escalation or next step
- Kyle for additional written terms.
- Saying yes to be agreeable
- Using family as a reason to buy
"I'm interested."
- Setter objective
- Turn interest into understanding, not into a link.
- Recommended approach
- Thank them and ask what caught their attention and what decision is behind it.
Glad to hear it. What caught your attention, and what's the decision you'd want to work on?
Which part are you most interested in: [offer], or working with Vic in a different way?
- Why
- Interest is not qualification. A link sent too early produces unqualified calls and weak handoffs.
- Escalation or next step
- Run discovery. When the booking threshold is met, move to booking.
- Sending the booking link immediately
- "Great, let's get you booked!"
- Assuming which offer they mean
Prospect gives a strong pain point
- Setter objective
- Show you understood and learn the impact, without pitching.
- Recommended approach
- Reflect the pain precisely in their words, then ask where it shows up.
So the managers wait on you for pricing and hiring decisions. Where does that show up most in the business day to day?
- Why
- People commit to a conversation when they feel understood. Their words also become the handoff.
- Escalation or next step
- When you know the decision, impact and desired outcome, move to qualification.
- "That's exactly what Vic solves."
- "I can fix that."
- Over-sympathizing
- Pitching immediately
Prospect gives a vague response
- Setter objective
- Narrow without interrogating.
- Recommended approach
- Offer two concrete options, which are easier to answer than an open prompt.
Understood. What's getting in the way of growth right now: the team, the decisions that come to you, or something else?
Is there a specific decision you're weighing, or are you still deciding what to work on?
- Why
- Concrete choices lower the effort of replying.
- Escalation or next step
- Still vague after two attempts: agree a later date or close with "I'll leave it here for now."
- Repeating the same question
- Accepting vagueness and pitching
- Interrogating
Prospect asks a technical question
- Setter objective
- Be accurate. Do not guess.
- Recommended approach
- Answer only what the offer sheet supports. Otherwise say you will confirm, give a time, and route it.
That's a detailed question and I'd rather give you an accurate answer than a quick one. I'll check with the team and come back to you [today or by a specific time].
- Why
- A confident wrong answer is worse than a short delay. Legal, tax and investment questions are outside your role.
- Escalation or next step
- Route to the closer or Kyle, log the promise, and return with the confirmed answer.
- Guessing
- Giving legal, tax or investment advice
- Inventing details about EPIC frameworks
Prospect wants to book immediately
- Setter objective
- Do not slow a ready buyer, and do not hand off a blank record.
- Recommended approach
- Collect the minimum: business and role, the decision, price awareness, timing. Then book through the approved route and flag unknowns.
Happy to arrange it. So the closer comes prepared: what's the business, and what's the decision you want to work through?
- Why
- Eagerness does not remove the need for context. The closer needs facts to run a useful conversation.
- Escalation or next step
- Book through Booking and Handoff. Cabo: confirm dates with Kyle first. Boardroom: use its approved route, not a generic form.
- Running full discovery
- Making them wait
- Sending an unapproved link
- Collecting payment
"I'm not interested."
- Setter objective
- Respect a clear no.
- Recommended approach
- Acknowledge, thank them, record it, and stop.
Understood. Thanks for letting me know.
- Why
- A clear no is a complete answer. Respecting it protects Vic's reputation.
- Escalation or next step
- Record the decline and close the pursuit. "Not interested" ends this pursuit. "Stop" or "do not contact me" triggers suppression.
- Challenging the no
- An objection script
- "Are you sure?"
- Guilt or humor about ghosting
"We're already doing this."
- Setter objective
- Find out what "this" is.
- Recommended approach
- Ask what they use today and whether any part of the decision still needs a second perspective.
That's useful to know. What are you using today, and is there part of the decision you'd still want a second perspective on?
- Why
- "This" is often partial. Questions respect their position without arguing.
- Escalation or next step
- A real gap: continue. Fully served: close warmly.
- Arguing
- Implying their approach is inadequate
- Pitching over the top
"We're already working with someone."
- Setter objective
- Respect the relationship and clarify scope.
- Recommended approach
- Ask what the person covers, without asking who or criticizing them.
Good to hear. Is that person helping with this particular decision, or a different part of the business?
- Why
- EPIC may complement an existing advisor. Disparagement ends the conversation.
- Escalation or next step
- Complementary need: continue. Fully covered: close with the door open.
- Disparaging the other provider
- Asking who it is
- Suggesting they replace them
"I don't have the budget."
- Setter objective
- Learn whether it is price, timing or the type of help.
- Recommended approach
- Ask which one, once. Do not rescue the sale.
Understood. Is it the amount itself, the timing, or the type of help that doesn't fit right now?
- Why
- Each answer leads somewhere different. Guessing wastes the exchange.
- Escalation or next step
- Price: move to another offer only if it genuinely fits the need. Otherwise an agreed later date or a respectful close. See Objection Handling.
- Offering financing
- Suggesting they borrow
- Dropping to a cheaper offer just to sell
- "It pays for itself."
"I'm too busy."
- Setter objective
- Respect their time and find out whether it is a priority.
- Recommended approach
- Acknowledge it and ask whether to return at a specific point or leave it.
Understood. Would it help if I came back to this at a specific point, or is this not a priority right now?
- Why
- Their time is the scarce resource. A respectful answer keeps the door open without pressure.
- Escalation or next step
- A date is agreed: record it as Deferred. For Cabo, note that the event is two full days. No date: close.
- "It only takes fifteen minutes."
- Guilt
- Chasing
"Maybe later."
- Setter objective
- Turn "later" into a date, or an honest close.
- Recommended approach
- Ask whether a date or event would signal the right time, and promise to wait.
Of course. Is there a date or an event that would tell you it's the right time? I'll note it and come back then, and not before.
- Why
- "Later" with no date is a polite no. With a date it becomes an agreement.
- Escalation or next step
- Record the permission and date. One contextual contact at that time. No automatic sequence.
- Nudging in the meantime
- Adding them to a nurture list
- "Later is too late."
"Let me think about it."
- Setter objective
- Learn the real concern.
- Recommended approach
- Ask once, gently, whether something specific is open. Record the primary stated objection. Do not default to "needs to think".
Of course. Is there anything specific you want to weigh, such as the scope, the timing or who else is involved? I can clarify any of it.
- Why
- "Let me think" often hides one concern. Asking once, without pressure, can reveal it.
- Escalation or next step
- A concern named: address it. None: agree a date to reply in this thread and do not chase.
- Pressing for a decision
- Creating a deadline
- "What's holding you back?"
"Can you guarantee results?"
- Setter objective
- Be plainly honest.
- Recommended approach
- Say there is no guarantee, state what the offer does provide, and ask about fit.
No. EPIC doesn't guarantee growth, outcomes or returns, and I wouldn't want you to expect one. What the offer provides is [deliverables]. The question is whether that format fits the decision you're working on.
- Why
- A guarantee request is a test of honesty. A plain no builds more trust than a hedge.
- Escalation or next step
- If they press for written terms, ask Kyle. Never improvise a guarantee.
- "Most clients see..."
- Using a testimonial as a forecast
- "Risk-free."
- Promising a refund
"What results have you gotten?"
- Setter objective
- Share only what is approved.
- Recommended approach
- Offer approved proof if one exists in the asset ledger. If not, say so and explain what you can provide.
I only share results that EPIC has approved and that I can attribute accurately. I don't have an approved example to share here. What I can do is walk you through exactly what's included, and [closer] can speak to the format on the call. What outcome are you hoping to see?
- Why
- Unsupported claims are a critical failure. Missing proof is a gap to resolve, not a license to invent.
- Escalation or next step
- Ask the sales lead for approved proof, and log the request.
- Quoting exits, company counts, awards or employee numbers from memory
- Inventing a testimonial
- Using the AI payroll example as a client result
"What return will I get?"
- Setter objective
- Be clear about what is and is not promised.
- Recommended approach
- State there is no guaranteed return and redirect to fit.
There isn't a guaranteed financial return. The value to assess is whether the specific format and support fit the decision you're working on.
- Why
- No guaranteed growth, enterprise value, introductions, capital or transaction outcome.
- Escalation or next step
- Repeated pressure: close politely or ask Kyle.
- ROI estimates
- "It pays for itself"
- Pointing to other clients' results
"Will Vic help me sell my company?"
- Setter objective
- Describe the relevant offers without promising a sale.
- Recommended approach
- Explain that exit readiness work exists, that no buyer or price is guaranteed, and ask where they are in the decision.
The relevant offers can include strategic work on exit readiness. They don't guarantee a buyer, a transaction or a sale price. What stage are you at with that decision?
- Why
- Exit-readiness review is a VIP deliverable. Mentorship includes strategic reviews of exits. Neither promises an outcome.
- Escalation or next step
- Do not ask for confidential deal documents. A live transaction or a specific deal: route to Kyle.
- Promising a buyer or valuation
- Suggesting Vic will introduce buyers
- Asking for deal documents
Prospect is skeptical
- Setter objective
- Meet skepticism with substance, not reassurance.
- Recommended approach
- Validate, state what is written, state the limits, and ask which part to clarify.
That's reasonable, and I'd rather you ask. Here's what's written for the offer: [deliverables]. There's no guarantee of results, and EPIC reviews fit before anything is promised. Which part would you want to understand better?
- Why
- A skeptical senior buyer responds to facts and calm, not enthusiasm.
- Escalation or next step
- If concerns persist, offer the closer conversation without obligation, or close.
- Defending
- "Trust me"
- Over-explaining
- Piling on testimonials
Prospect becomes difficult
- Setter objective
- Stay composed and protect the record.
- Recommended approach
- Set one calm boundary, offer a route to what they need, and do not match tone.
I want to help, and I'll need to keep this conversation respectful to continue. If it would help, tell me what you need and I'll get you to the right person.
- Why
- Composure is part of the brand. Escalation by tone helps no one.
- Escalation or next step
- Abuse or threats: stop, log, tell David or Jacob. Legal threat, chargeback or refund dispute: escalate immediately. Do not delete anything.
- Matching their tone
- Arguing
- Ghosting jokes
- Pressure based on who they are
Prospect is clearly unqualified
- Setter objective
- Close with a factual reason and dignity.
- Recommended approach
- Thank them, state the factual mismatch, and leave the door open if the facts could change.
Thank you for the context. Based on what you've described, [factual mismatch], so I don't want to point you toward something that isn't the right fit. If [that] changes, you're welcome to reply here.
- Why
- A respectful close protects Vic's reputation and your time. Not-fit decisions must use approved criteria and factual reasons, never character judgments.
- Escalation or next step
- Record closed lost with a factual reason. No nurture, no downsell, no promised future admission.
- Judgments about character
- "Maybe next year."
- Downselling
- A vague "not a fit"
Follow-Up SOP
Follow-up depends on what was said, what is owed, and what they agreed to, not on the number of days since your last message.
Where did the conversation stop?
Choose the situation to see what to do next.
They went quiet mid-conversation
One contextual check-in after two days. One close-the-loop after seven. Both pending release.
I owe them an answer
Send the confirmed answer today, or tell them when you will have it.
They are engaged but facts are missing
Ask the single most important missing question.
Interested, but no agreement to a call
Invite the next step once, softly, with a reason.
I sent the link and they have not booked
Proposed five touches over seven days, each with a different purpose.
They vanished after strong signals
One message that removes scheduling friction. No extra touches.
They cancelled or rescheduled
Verify, cancel old reminders, notify the closer, send one confirmation.
They did not show up
Proposed three touches over three days. Verify the no-show first.
Principles
Source rule- Follow-up is a decision, not a calendar. Each touch needs a reason that exists today.
- One touch means one outbound attempt across the whole team, not one per channel or per person.
- A reply leaves the sequence and becomes a conversation. Pause anything queued.
- No response is not permission for indefinite nurture or a move to a broadcast list.
- A DM does not give permission to text or call.
- No numeric DM schedule exists in the sources. Timings below are proposed and need release. Do not invent a daily message plan.
Before every touch
Source rule| Check | Why |
|---|---|
| Latest reply and whether a question is unanswered | Never follow up while you owe them an answer |
| Permission and local contact window | Respect channel permission |
| Suppression, opt-out, earlier decline | A violation here is a critical failure |
| Owner of the next message | One person owns each next action |
| Booking and payment status | Do not chase a booking that exists |
| Existing automated sends | Do not stack on an identical reminder |
| Current offer facts | Dates and inventory may have changed |
Writing rules for every follow-up
Source ruleRecommendedDo
- Reference something they said or a real change
- One purpose, one question, one or two sentences
- Offer a way to say no
- Accept that a close-the-loop message ends it
Do not
- "Just checking in" or "Did you see my message?"
- Guilt, ghosting jokes, pressure based on identity
- Fake urgency or "last seats"
- New pitches dressed up as follow-ups
Twelve situations
They went quiet in the middle of discovery
- When
- They answered some questions, then stopped. The last message was yours.
- Why
- One contextual check-in respects the conversation. More than that starts to feel like pressure.
- What to send
- Proposed: one contextual check-in after two days, then one close-the-loop after seven days, if the sales lead approves the DM cadence.
Hi [Name], you mentioned [specific decision]. Is that still something you want to work through, or has the timing changed?
I'll leave it here for now. If [topic] becomes a priority, you can reply in this thread and we'll pick it back up.
- What not to do
- "Just checking in." "Did you see my message?" Guilt, ghosting memes, a new pitch, or a link.
- When to stop
- After the close-the-loop message, a reply, a decline, or when another owner enters the conversation.
You owe them an answer
- When
- They asked something you could not answer yet, and you said you would confirm.
- Why
- Your own promise is the only follow-up that cannot wait. It is a commitment, not a nudge.
- What to send
- Send the confirmed answer as soon as you have it. If it will be later, say when. Close the promise in the record.
I checked [specific question] with the team. [Confirmed answer]. Does that give you what you need for the next step?
- What not to do
- Waiting for them to ask again. Sending an unconfirmed answer. Adding new questions to the same message.
- When to stop
- When they confirm, or when the question is answered and logged.
They are engaged, but facts are still missing
- When
- Timing, a decision participant or price awareness is unknown, but they are still talking.
- Why
- Do not chase fields. Keep momentum with the single most useful question.
- What to send
- Ask the most important missing question in the context of what they said. If they book anyway, write unknown in the handoff.
So the right person is on the call: who else would be involved in deciding on this?
- What not to do
- A list of questions. Re-asking what they already answered. Pushing to book before the threshold.
- When to stop
- When the fact is supplied, or at the end of the normal cadence.
They are interested, but have not agreed to a call
- When
- They like the format but have not said yes to speaking with the closer.
- Why
- Interest is not commitment. The invitation should be soft and clear.
- What to send
- Invite the next step once the threshold is met. One time, with a reason.
From what you've told me, the next step is a conversation with [closer] to check fit and walk through the details. Would that be useful?
- What not to do
- Sending a link without permission. Urgency. "Spots are filling."
- When to stop
- A yes (book), a no (close), or no reply (one cadence follow-up).
You sent the link and they have not booked
- When
- They agreed, you sent the approved link, and the record shows no booking. A sent link is not a booking.
- Why
- Silence after a link is usually a scheduling problem, not a change of mind. Different problems need different messages.
- What to send
- Proposed cap: five touches across seven days (days 0, 1, 3, 5 and 7). Each touch has a different purpose: the next step, scheduling help, a relevant answer or resource, an unresolved question, a close-the-loop.
Were you able to find a time that works with [Closer]? If the available times don't work, let me know your time zone and I can check with the team.
I'll leave it here for now. If a conversation becomes useful, reply here and I'll arrange it.
- What not to do
- Repeating the same link. Identical wording. Backfilling skipped touches. Stacking on an existing automated reminder.
- When to stop
- A booking, a reply, a change in fit, a decline, or the end of the cadence.
They disappeared after strong buying signals
- When
- They asked detailed questions, accepted the price, said they would book, and then stopped replying.
- Why
- Strong intent makes scheduling friction more likely than disinterest. It does not earn extra touches.
- What to send
- Send one personal message that removes friction, within the cap above. A DM does not give permission to text or call.
I don't want scheduling to be the reason this stalls. If it helps, tell me a time window and your time zone and I'll check with [closer]'s team.
- What not to do
- More than the cap. Texting or calling without permission. Urgency. "Last seats."
- When to stop
- A reply, or the end of the cadence. Then a respectful close.
They are booked
- When
- A verified booking exists.
- Why
- Clarity turns a booking into attendance. One owner prevents duplicate reminders.
- What to send
- Confirmation, a 24-hour reminder and a 1-hour reminder, owned by one named person. Count any approved automated message. The final reminder is logistics and the join link only.
You're booked for a fit conversation about [offer or business decision]. With: [real closer]. When: [day, date, time and time zone]. Join: [verified meeting link]. Need to change the time: [approved route].
- What not to do
- Duplicating an automated reminder. Adding a long video or a new pitch just before the call. Backfilling for short-notice bookings.
- When to stop
- A cancellation, a reschedule, or the call completing.
They cancelled or rescheduled
- When
- A new confirmed time is a reschedule. A cancellation with no new time is a cancellation. A cancellation saying "not interested" is a withdrawal.
- Why
- Each is a different event. A reschedule continues the same conversation.
- What to send
- Reschedule: verify the new date, time zone, closer and link, cancel the old reminders, notify the closer and send one updated confirmation. Scheduling cancellation: offer the approved rebooking route if welcomed. Withdrawal: close.
You're now booked with [Closer] on [day, date] at [time, time zone]. The invitation has the new link. Please let me know if anything else changes.
- What not to do
- Restarting all the original messages. Guilt. Recovery after "not interested" or "stop". Penalties for repeated changes. Those go to a person for review.
- When to stop
- A new verified booking, a withdrawal, or sales lead review for repeated changes.
They did not show up
- When
- A verified no-show. First check for a technical problem or late arrival.
- Why
- A no-show is a different event from a cancellation, with its own bounded recovery.
- What to send
- Proposed: three touches over three days. Day 1 a rebooking message, day 2 a permitted rep call, day 3 a close-the-loop. The call counts inside the three.
We missed you at [time] with [Closer]. If something came up, here is how to rebook: [approved link]. If the timing no longer works, just let me know.
- What not to do
- Blame. Unlimited attempts. Calls without permission. Humor about ghosting.
- When to stop
- A rebooking, a reply, a refusal, or the end of the cadence.
They agreed a later date
- When
- They said "maybe later" and you agreed a date or an event.
- Why
- An agreed date is permission. Anything earlier is not.
- What to send
- One contextual contact at the agreed time, referencing the reason they gave.
Hi [Name], in [month] you said [decision] would be clearer after [event]. Has it moved?
- What not to do
- Restarting a full sequence. Contacting early. Adding to a broadcast list.
- When to stop
- A reply, a decline, or after that single contact.
They had a call and have not decided
- When
- The prospect spoke with the closer and has not purchased.
- Why
- The closer owns this relationship. Parallel messages from you confuse the prospect.
- What to send
- Stand down. The closer sends the personal recap in the first 24 hours. You continue only if the closer hands it back.
- What not to do
- Sending your own recap, offers or an objection sequence.
- When to stop
- Ownership has moved to the closer.
They opted in to something but never messaged
- When
- A newsletter or lead-magnet sign-up, not a sales conversation.
- Why
- An email address is not permission for a sales campaign.
- What to send
- Deliver what was requested. Offer an application or conversation only within the recorded permission and the approved route.
- What not to do
- Treating the opt-in as consent for DMs or a booking campaign.
- When to stop
- When the requested item is delivered.
They declined, or asked to stop
- When
- "Not interested", "stop", "do not contact me", or a complaint.
- Why
- A decline is a complete answer. A stop request is a legal and reputational control.
- What to send
- Acknowledge briefly. Record the exact request, time, channel and scope. Apply suppression, or alert the operator who can. Keep a visible manual block.
Understood. I've noted that and you won't hear from us again.
- What not to do
- A final pitch. Switching channels. Challenging. Leaving queued tasks active.
- When to stop
- Immediately.
Booking and Handoff
When to move a prospect to a call, how to do it cleanly, and what the closer needs from you.
When to book: the threshold
Source ruleMove a prospect toward a call when you can state all of the following. If one is unknown, flag it to the sales lead rather than invent it.
| Required | In practice |
|---|---|
| Business context | What they run and their role |
| The problem | The decision or constraint, in their words |
| Desired outcome | What they want to be clearer on |
| A plausible route | The format that fits, and why |
| Price awareness | You stated the price and heard their response |
| Timing | A date or event, or an honest none |
| Decision process | Who else is involved |
A qualified appointment is not commission eligibility, and a booking is not admission. Use the qualification tracker in the Qualification section to check the threshold for the route.
Buying signals and booking triggers
RecommendedBuying signals
- Asks how to start, or what happens next
- Asks about dates, format, logistics or what is expected of them
- Accepts the stated price, or asks what is included
- Names a decision date
- Brings in a partner or decision participant
- Compares two tiers sensibly
Booking triggers
- The threshold is met
- They agree to a conversation with the closer
- They ask for one directly. Collect the minimum first, then book
When not to book
Source rule- The threshold is not met and the missing facts matter
- No real decision, or they are not the decision-maker and cannot involve them
- They have not heard the price
- They asked to stop, or a stop signal is present
- Cabo: dates, inventory or screening are not confirmed. Kyle confirms in writing first
- Boardroom: use the approved conversation route. Do not impose a generic form
- Single Session: EPIC is not currently offering it
- The booking link, calendar or closer has not been released and tested
- Someone else owns an active conversation with them
The booking sequence
Source rule- Summarize. You run [business] and want help with [decision]. You're considering [offer/format], and [timing] matters. Have I got that right?
- Ask permission. The next step would be a conversation with [verified closer name] to check fit and walk through the details. Would that be useful?
- Use only the approved application and calendar. If an application is required, they complete it honestly. Never answer screening questions for them or bypass review.
- Confirm the real booking record. Verify the date, local time and time zone, closer, meeting link and contact details. A sent link, or "I'll book later", is awaiting booking.
- Send one confirmation. Use the block below.
- Share one approved, working pre-call resource only if relevant.
- Update the CRM and send the handoff through the designated team channel. The closer acknowledges. Keep the prospect-facing next action with one owner.
How to introduce the call
The next step would be a conversation with [closer] to check fit and walk through the details. It isn't a sales commitment, and there's no obligation to decide on the call. Would that be useful?
Confirmation block
You're booked for a fit conversation about [offer or business decision].
With: [real closer]
When: [day, date, time and time zone]
Length and format: [verified duration and meeting platform]
Join: [verified meeting link]
Need to change the time: [approved rescheduling route]
[One short approved preparation step, if applicable].
Use the facts from the calendar record. Keep the final reminder focused on joining the call.
What to capture before you hand off
Source rule| Checkpoint | Required |
|---|---|
| First contact | Name and verified identifiers; the RN campaign or approved DM source and first-touch date, recorded before sales contact; a pre-existing record check; time zone; owners; permission and restrictions; disposition; next action |
| Qualification | Business and role; revenue band with period; team; primary decision or constraint; desired outcome; timing; support wanted; price-specific investment readiness; decision participants; proposed offer and rationale; open questions |
| Offer-specific | Cabo: event and tier interest, travel and full-event feasibility, screening. Boardroom: contribution and referral context, plus the required EPIC decision |
| Before booking | Route; assigned closer; verified calendar record; date, time and prospect time zone; meeting link; price discussed; discovery brief; approved resources sent; one confirmation owner |
Write unknown rather than guess. Label prospect statements as self-reported and keep them separate from your interpretation. Never put credentials, card details, identity documents or unrelated personal details in notes or messages.
Setter to closer handoff template
Source ruleFacts in their words. Interpretation labeled as yours. Unknown written as unknown.
Prospect, business and role: [Name, company, role, website if supplied] CRM record and appointment: [Verified record link; date, time and time zone; closer] Source and setter: [Campaign or approved DM source; first-touch date recorded before sales contact; prior-record check; setter] Business context (self-reported): [Business model, revenue with period, team size] Main decision and desired outcome: [In the prospect's own words] What they have tried: [Facts only] Why they are interested: [In their words] Suggested route and why: [Offer and the specific fit] Price discussed and their response: [Exact amount and reaction] Timing and decision participants: [Facts; write unknown where unknown] Open questions or likely objections: [Including any approval required] Admission or approval status: [Status and evidence, or not applicable] Every promise made, and resources sent: [Exact commitments and approved links, or none] Confirmation owner and next action: [Name, action, due time]
Fill in the fields to produce a handoff you can copy into the team channel. Nothing is stored or sent. Do not enter credentials or card details.
After the booking
If the prospect changes the appointment
- Verify the new booking, date and time zone before you confirm it.
- Keep the original appointment history, notify the closer, and have the authorized owner stop the old reminders.
- Check which preparation material was already sent and keep what is still relevant.
- A reschedule does not restart the original sequence.
- If they withdraw or ask to stop, close or suppress. No recovery messages.
- Repeated changes go to a person to understand the problem.
Paying clients: the handoff to EPIC
RN hands every paying client to EPIC within one business day: client name, contact information, purchased offer, start date, payment status, setter and closer notes, the recorded call, and every promise or special commitment made on the call. Payment alone does not complete the work. You will not run this process, but your notes become part of it, so accurate promises and context matter.
Boardroom, Cabo and Mentorship specifics
- Boardroom: RN-managed sales conversation. EPIC final written admission approval before any acceptance. No generic form while the recorded no-forms and no-lengthy-application promises are unresolved.
- Cabo: Kyle confirms dates and availability. Never say "last seats" without a verified count, event identifier and timestamp. No holds. No payment in DMs. Screening required.
- Mentorship: assigned closer conversation, with EPIC reviewing fit before any access is promised.
Objection Handling
Understand, clarify, and decide. Do not hard-close.
The method
Source ruleThe setter does not hard-close. The goal is to understand the concern, decide whether a fit still exists, and then move forward, hand off or close. After a call, the closer owns objection follow-up.
- Understand. Acknowledge what they said without arguing.
- Clarify. Ask one question to learn what is behind it.
- Classify. Is it a real objection, a reflex, or missing information? Categories: scope, price, timing, decision participant, evidence or trust, unspecified.
- Give context. Offer the written facts that apply. Nothing invented.
- Check fit. Is there still a fit, a better route, or none?
- Move forward, escalate or close. Each is a valid end.
The closer's structure, Validate, Reframe, Prove, Invite, is useful for your wording: acknowledge the concern, clarify a relevant scope distinction, support it with the written deliverable or approved evidence, and invite an optional next step. Reframing never means disputing affordability or inventing the cost of waiting.
What you never do with an objection
Source rule- Guess a hidden motive, or default an unknown concern to "needs to think".
- Claim the fee pays for itself, or introduce ROI, financing, discounts or guarantees.
- Use scarcity or a deadline that is not verified.
- Send every objection variant. If the concern is unknown, ask.
- Repeat an objection script after a clear no.
Common objections
Price: "It's more than I expected."
- Category
- Price
- They say
- "It's more than I expected."
- Clarify
- Is it the amount itself, or whether the format is worth it for your situation?
- Context you can give
- Restate what is included in writing. Do not dispute affordability. Do not add ROI, financing, discounts or guarantees.
I understand. For context, the [offer] is [price] and includes [deliverables]. Does that match what you were looking for, or is a different format closer to what you need?
- Move forward or stop
- A genuinely better-fitting offer exists: explain it once. Otherwise agree a later date, or close respectfully.
Timing: "Not now. The timing is wrong."
- Category
- Timing
- They say
- "Not now. The timing is wrong."
- Clarify
- Is there a date or event that would make the timing right?
- Context you can give
- Cabo is two full days at fixed January 2027 events. Other formats have their own schedules. State facts, not pressure.
Understood. Is there a point at which this becomes a priority? I'll note it and come back then, and not before.
- Move forward or stop
- A date is agreed: Deferred, one contextual contact. No date: close the pursuit.
Decision participant: "I need to talk to my partner first."
- Category
- Participant
- They say
- "I need to talk to my partner first."
- Clarify
- Would it help if your partner joined the conversation with [closer]?
- Context you can give
- Invite them. Do not try to persuade the prospect to decide alone.
That makes sense. Would you like your partner included in the conversation with [closer]? I can arrange it so you both have the same information.
- Move forward or stop
- They agree: book for both. Otherwise agree a date to reply.
Evidence or trust: "How do I know this works?"
- Category
- Trust
- They say
- "How do I know this works?"
- Clarify
- What would you need to see to feel comfortable?
- Context you can give
- Use only approved proof. Say there is no guarantee. Offer the closer conversation as a way to ask questions with no obligation.
That's a fair question. I only share results EPIC has approved, and I don't have one to share here. What I can do is walk through exactly what's included, and [closer] can answer questions on the call with no obligation.
- Move forward or stop
- Approved proof exists: share it with its limitations. Otherwise offer the conversation or close.
Scope: "I'm not sure this fits what I need."
- Category
- Scope
- They say
- "I'm not sure this fits what I need."
- Clarify
- What would the ideal help look like?
- Context you can give
- Re-run discovery on the support wanted. The mismatch may be the offer, not the person.
Let's check. When you picture the right kind of help, is it focused on one decision, ongoing coaching as you implement, or a longer-term founder community?
- Move forward or stop
- A better route exists: explain it. None exists: close with the factual reason.
Existing advisor: "I already have a coach or consultant."
- Category
- Advisor
- They say
- "I already have a coach or consultant."
- Clarify
- Does that person cover this decision, or a different part of the business?
- Context you can give
- Do not criticize them. EPIC may complement. If it is fully covered, accept it.
Good to hear. Is that person helping with [the decision], or a different part of the business?
- Move forward or stop
- A gap exists: continue. Fully covered: close warmly.
Access to Vic: "Why can't I just talk to Vic?"
- Category
- Access
- They say
- "Why can't I just talk to Vic?"
- Clarify
- What kind of access are you hoping for?
- Context you can give
- Access differs by offer. Do not promise a pre-purchase call.
The first conversation is with [closer], and I can't promise a pre-purchase call with Vic. Access to him differs by offer, so tell me what you're hoping for and I'll point you to the one that includes it.
- Move forward or stop
- A specific access need: match the offer. Insistence or a notable figure: Kyle.
Travel or schedule (Cabo): "Two days in Cabo is hard for me."
- Category
- Travel
- They say
- "Two days in Cabo is hard for me."
- Clarify
- Is it these dates, travel in general, or time away from the business?
- Context you can give
- Dates are not final until Kyle confirms them. Flights and lodging are separate. A plus-one is welcome at the two dinners.
Understood. Is it the dates, or time away in general? The exact dates for your event are confirmed by Kyle, so I'd rather not guess.
- Move forward or stop
- Dates are the issue: confirm with Kyle. Otherwise another route that fits, a later date, or close.
Skepticism about the brand: "This sounds like every other coach."
- Category
- Skeptic
- They say
- "This sounds like every other coach."
- Clarify
- What experience have you had that makes you cautious?
- Context you can give
- Agree that caution is reasonable. State what is written, the limits and the selectivity. Do not defend or compare.
That caution is reasonable. What's written for the offer is [deliverables], with no guarantee of results, and EPIC reviews fit before anything is promised. Which part would you want to understand better?
- Move forward or stop
- Substance helps: offer the conversation. If not, accept and close.
Escalation Rules
Know where your authority ends. Do not improvise beyond it.
Who to go to
Source rule| Contact | For | Not for |
|---|---|---|
| RN sales lead | Offer and claims language, booking links, payment-terms questions, channel controls, approved proof, DM cadence | Admission, scope or term decisions |
| Kyle (EPIC) | Admission, terms, scope, dates, inventory, logistics, fulfillment, media, partnership, speaking, investment and deal submissions | Daily sales questions. Kyle is not the default closer |
| David and Jacob (RN operations) | Ownership conflicts, CRM, QA, staffing, suppression and automation issues, coverage | Offer terms |
| The verified closer | The fit conversation and anything after the call | Anything before you hand off |
Three levels of authority
Source ruleHandle yourself
- State a published price and deliverables
- Say there is no guarantee
- Say you cannot change price or scope
- Accept a decline
- Answer a question the offer sheet clearly answers
Ask internally
- Anything the sheet does not cover
- Payment terms, deposits, installments
- Cabo dates, inventory, hotel codes, plus-ones beyond the sheet
- Scope or custom arrangement questions
- Boardroom or Mentorship borderline fit
- Approved proof or a result to share
Give the prospect a realistic time, and keep the promise.
Escalate immediately
- Stop the affected action first
- A misstatement you or someone made
- Contact after an opt-out
- Paid before approval, or suspected overselling
- A refund, cancellation or chargeback complaint
- A legal threat, fraud, data exposure
- An unexpected payment-destination change
The matrix
Source rule| Situation | You may | Route to | Escalate immediately? |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pricing exceptions, discounts | Say published prices apply | Kyle if there is a real scope question | No |
| Payment plans, financing, deposits, holds, refunds | Say there is no approved option | RN sales lead to confirm EPIC written terms | Immediately if they complain or dispute |
| Guarantees of results, returns, admission | Say there is none | Kyle if they press for written terms | No |
| Legal, tax, fiduciary or investment questions | Say it is outside your role | Kyle for contract questions | Immediately for a legal threat |
| Custom arrangements: extra calls, special access, different term | Say you cannot offer it | Kyle, in writing, before anything is offered | No |
| Complex strategic questions | Acknowledge, do not advise | The closer or Kyle | No |
| Sensitive reputation issues: complaints about Vic or EPIC, rumors, public criticism | Do not debate or defend | David, Jacob and Kyle | Yes. Preserve the record |
| High-value or notable prospects | Same process, same care | Flag to the sales lead or Kyle with the facts | No. High value is not an exception |
| Media, public figures, speaking, partnership, investment, deal submissions | Ask for a short description and contact details | Kyle. No commitment on Vic's behalf | When time-sensitive |
| Existing relationships: existing client, owner already in CRM, a claimed friendship with Vic | Do not verify over DM, and do not sell in parallel | David or Jacob for ownership. EPIC for client service | If it affects a live conversation |
| Requests to speak with Vic | Use the standard line. No pre-purchase call promised | Kyle for a relationship claim or notable figure | No |
| Anything outside your authority | Say you will confirm, with a realistic time | The right owner above | If in doubt, pause and ask |
Holding lines
RecommendedSource ruleThat's outside what I can confirm, and I'd rather give you the right answer than a quick one. I'll check with the team and come back to you [today or by a specific time].
I can't change that, and I don't want to promise something EPIC hasn't confirmed. If there's a genuine question about scope, I'll put it to Kyle and come back to you.
Thank you for sharing that. I'm going to pass it to the right person on our team so it's handled properly. They'll be in touch.
I need to correct what I said about [point]. The correct information is [approved fact]. [Effect on next steps, if any.]
Escalation template
Source ruleClient/CRM: [record] Issue and evidence: [facts and source] Current status and action paused: [details] Decision requested: [specific question] Real deadline and time zone: [value or none] Expectation already set: [exact promise or none] Decision owner and next-action owner: [names]
An escalation does not authorize a refund, a contract change or a promised resolution. Do not tell the prospect otherwise.
Dos and Don'ts
The habits that protect Vic's reputation, and the mistakes that damage it. Each comes with its reason.
Do
- Say who you areTruthful identity is the foundation of trust, and a stated rule: you are part of Vic Keller's team.
- Answer first, then askThey came with a question. Answering it earns the right to ask yours.
- Read the thread and search the CRM before you replyPrevents duplicate contact, contact after an opt-out, and making them repeat themselves.
- One question per message, short messagesEasier to answer, and it feels like a conversation, not a form.
- State the price plainly when askedEPIC's presentation is price-visible. Evasion reads as hiding something.
- Use their words in the handoffThe closer starts with the prospect's real language, not your interpretation.
- Write unknown when you do not knowA guess becomes a fact in the next person's hands.
- Confirm before you promise, and keep the promiseAn unanswered promise is the fastest way to lose trust.
- Accept a noA clear decline is a complete answer, and respecting it protects Vic's reputation.
- Honor a stop request immediatelyIt is a legal and reputational control, and its violation is a critical failure.
- Escalate early, with factsA short escalation with evidence saves everyone time and prevents unapproved commitments.
- Record every meaningful interaction and its next actionOne owner, one action, one due time. "Follow up later" is incomplete.
Do not
- Never write as Vic, or imply you spoke with himImpersonation and unsupported claims of personal attention are critical failures.
- Never promise results, returns, introductions, capital, admission or a saleNone is guaranteed, and the sources prohibit it.
- Never discount, add bonuses or offer payment plansPricing, terms and discounts require EPIC approval.
- Never say "last seats", or quote Cabo dates, without confirmed factsOverselling and false scarcity damage the brand.
- Never send a link before the threshold is metIt creates unqualified calls and weak handoffs.
- Never count a sent link as a bookingA booking is a verified calendar record.
- Never push financing or a cheaper offer just to sellA different offer is right only when it fits the need.
- Never ask for confidential deal documents, balances, credit scores, card details or credentialsNot necessary, and a data risk.
- Never follow up without a reason"Just checking in" is noise. Over-following is pressure.
- Never use guilt, ghosting jokes, scarcity or pressure on identityIt is beneath the brand and the buyer.
- Never stack a message on an automated reminderOne owner per next action.
- Never improvise outside your authoritySay you will confirm, then confirm.
- Never edit GHL, ManyChat or any automationReport problems. The sales lead and David own configuration.
- Never claim credentials from memoryUse the approved claims register only.
- Never hand off a blank or inflated recordPoor handoffs waste the closer's time and the prospect's.
- Never switch channels to get around a stop requestThat is contact after an opt-out.
Quality Control
A way for a manager, or you, to review a conversation and see exactly what to fix.
How a manager reviews
Source ruleRecommended- Read the complete conversation, with the CRM record and the handoff.
- Score each dimension: Met (2), Needs coaching (1), Not met (0).
- Check for critical failures. Resolve any affected case before looking at conversion.
- Record evidence, one specific correction and a recheck date.
- Share anonymized useful questions with the team. Private calls are not automatically marketing assets.
The scoring bands below are recommended. The source documents define Met, Needs coaching and Critical issue, but set no numeric thresholds. Employment or compensation consequences require the actual agreed policy.
Read the whole conversation first. Score each dimension, then check for critical failures. Nothing is saved.
| RelevanceEvery message connects to something the prospect said or a verified reason for writing.Fails when: Generic or copy-pasted messages; personalization that does not tie to a decision. | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| ProfessionalismTruthful identity. Clean language. Honors stop and decline. Follows process.Fails when: Casual slang, impersonation of Vic, skipping the CRM check. | |||
| ToneCalm, composed, high-status. Not needy, pushy, over-familiar or excited.Fails when: Emojis, exclamation marks, "Hey man", urgency, guilt. | |||
| QualificationLearned what the stage requires, naturally. Price awareness was not skipped. Did not over-qualify.Fails when: Interrogation, skipping price, booking before the threshold. | |||
| Question qualityOpen, specific, one at a time, builds on the last answer.Fails when: Stacked questions, closed questions, re-asking answered ones. | |||
| ListeningUses their words. Reflects accurately. Follows their thread.Fails when: Ignoring what they said, making them repeat, pitching over a pain point. | |||
| BrevityShort messages. No walls of text. Nothing over-explained.Fails when: Paragraphs, feature lists, long introductions. | |||
| AccuracyPrices, deliverables and boundaries match the offer sheet exactly. Unknowns are routed.Fails when: Invented claims, wrong prices, guarantees, unconfirmed dates. | |||
| Commercial judgmentRight route. Knew when to advance, hold or stop. No forced booking or downsell. Escalated properly.Fails when: Pushing a poor fit, ignoring a stop signal, discounting. | |||
| Next-step clarityThe prospect knows what happens next, who owns it and when. The record and handoff are complete.Fails when: An open end, a sent link treated as a booking, a missing handoff. |
Recommended bands
Recommended| Score | Reading | Action |
|---|---|---|
| 17 to 20 | Strong | Share as a model. Light feedback. |
| 13 to 16 | Meets the standard | Note one improvement. |
| 8 to 12 | Needs coaching | Specific correction and a recheck. |
| 0 to 7 | Re-train | Review the SOP together. Recheck soon. |
| Any critical failure | Critical issue | Stop and resolve the case first. Review controls. |
Daily Setter Workflow
A working day in priority order. The order is a source rule. The rhythm is a recommendation.
Start of shift
Exceptions first
Promises and appointments
Conversations, in this order
Prospect research and outreach
Booking and handoffs
CRM and admin
End of day review
Recommended working rhythm
Recommended- Work the inbox in priority order rather than newest first.
- Batch research and writing, but never batch replies to people who are waiting on an answer.
- Keep the handoff open while you qualify, so it is nearly complete when they say yes.
- Spend the last ten minutes of the shift on the end-of-day review, not on new conversations.
Definitions you will be measured against
Source rule| Metric | Definition |
|---|---|
| New inbound | Unique newly identified eligible inbound contacts after removing duplicates |
| Conversations handled | Unique contacts who received a substantive response. Message volume is reported separately |
| First-response time | From arrival to a substantive human reply |
| Qualification rate | Qualified applications divided by valid applications reviewed in the same cohort |
| Booking rate | Qualified applications producing a verified first booking, divided by qualified applications in the same cohort |
| Show rate | Attended appointments divided by attended plus verified no-shows. Cancellations and reschedules are reported separately |
End-of-day report template
Source ruleRep, role, date, time zone and cutoff: [values] New inbound and unique conversations: [counts] Bookings by offer: [counts] Attended, no-show, cancelled and rescheduled: [separate counts] Handoffs sent, accepted and outstanding: [counts, owner and deadline] Approval, suppression or coverage issues: [restricted record and owner] Useful objections and questions, in the prospect's words: [anonymized] Tomorrow's actions and decisions needed: [specific items]
Quick Reference
Everything you need on one page. Open it beside your inbox, or press the Cheat sheet button.
Before messaging
- Owner, operator or investor
- A real business and a real decision
- No CRM record, owner or suppression
- Relevance in one line: why this person, why now, why us
- Inbound, or an outbound route released
- No stop signal
Starting
- Inbound: answer first, one question
- Story, reel, post, highlight: respond to the substance
- Direct, business or industry observation: verified, relevant (pending release)
- Trigger or referral: with a real event or permission (pending release)
- Existing connection: pick up at the agreed date
- Selective offer: state selectivity, then the business
During the conversation
- Opening: identity, answer, one question
- Discovery: business, role, team
- Problem: decision, impact, desired outcome
- Qualification: timing, support, participants, price
- Fit: route, price, boundary
- Booking: summarize, ask permission, verify, hand off
Qualification
- What does the business do, and what is your role?
- What decision is taking the most attention?
- What have you tried? Where does it show up?
- What would you want to be clearer on after help?
- Is there a date or event that makes this a priority?
- Who else is involved? Price stated and heard?
Booking
- Threshold: context, problem, outcome, route, price awareness, timing, decision process
- Summarize, then ask permission
- Approved link only. A sent link is not a booking
- One confirmation, one owner
- Handoff in the team channel. Closer acknowledges
Follow-up
- Each touch needs a reason that exists today
- Owe an answer? Send it first
- Link sent, not booked: different purpose each touch (proposed cap five over seven days)
- No-show: proposed three touches over three days
- Agreed later date: one contact at that date
- No or stop: stop, log, suppress
Escalation
- Yourself: published price, no guarantee, accept a decline
- Ask: anything not on the sheet, terms, dates, inventory, proof
- Immediately: misstatement, contact after opt-out, paid before approval, complaint, legal threat, fraud
- Kyle: admission, scope, dates, media, investment. David or Jacob: ownership, CRM, suppression
Never do
- Write as Vic or imply you spoke to him
- Promise results, returns, introductions, admission or a sale
- Discount, bonus, payment plan or hold
- Send a link before the threshold
- Say "last seats" or quote unconfirmed dates
- Collect payment or confidential data in DMs
- Contact after a stop request
Open items and sources
Gaps found while cross-referencing the source documents, and what this SOP was built from.
Open items before live use
These are the gaps found while cross-referencing the three source documents. This SOP does not fill them with invented information.
- Name spelling. The original brief says "Kellar". Every source document and the offer page URLs say "Keller". This SOP uses Keller.
- Setter SOP Creation Guide. It was referenced in the brief but not supplied. The structure follows the brief's own section list. Check it against the guide when available.
- Named owners. The RN sales lead, the verified closers, the payment-intake owner and EPIC's receiving owner are not named in the sources. Confirm them before release.
- Booking and calendar. Approved booking and rescheduling links, the Cabo 20-minute fit-call calendar, and the 60 to 90 second pre-call video (or its approved fallback).
- Claims register and proof. Approved wording, evidence and testimonials. Until it exists, setters share no results.
- EPIC Sight Picture. No approved description exists in the supplied materials.
- Intensive and Single Session details. The length of the "defined engagement period" for Intensive access, and who leads the Single Session, are not stated.
- Admission criteria. EPIC's latest written criteria, and the approved Boardroom route that respects the no-forms and no-revenue-threshold promises.
- Cadence and outbound release. The follow-up timings in this SOP are proposed. Outbound DMs and automation need written release.
- Customer payment terms. Deposits, installments, refunds and holds are unresolved in the proposal.
- Cabo dates and inventory. Exact dates and a verified standard and VIP ledger from Kyle.
- Numeric DM targets. None are set in the sources. None are invented here.
Sources
Built from three documents: EPIC Offer Sheet: Prices and Deliverables (RN Sales Team), the primary source for offer facts; EPIC Inbound DM Setter SOP, review draft 1.2 of October 2, 2026; and EPIC Shared Sales Operations SOP, review draft 1.2. Where the existing DM SOP was strong (identity, answer-first, plain pricing, Cabo accuracy, the handoff and confirmation templates, suppression), it is preserved. Where it was thin (ICP, qualification criteria, objection handling, contextual follow-up, scoring, an interface for use under time pressure), it is extended. Material labeled Recommended is craft guidance, not an EPIC rule.